Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by snoopdogg486 pages

Originally posted by Dinalfos
That shouldn't be possible. But in anyway, when Juggernaut tried and failed to break Hulk's neck, Hulk's body eliminated all fatique poisons and allowed him to overpower Juggernaut by grabbing his helmet and spinning him like crazy.

Either the whole comic was bad writing or the Hulk didn't put his heart into the battle. Because even if the Hulk has less stamina than Juggernaut, he's not supposed to tire THAT quickly.

Juggernaut was gonna break his kneck. Hulk grabbed him before put the squeeze on. So basically Juggy never got to try it. Oh and in no point in the match did Hulk overpower Juggernaut. The fight was a stalemate. But Hulk was the one who ran away......................

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Juggernaut was gonna break his kneck. Hulk grabbed him before put the squeeze on. So basically Juggy never got to try it. Oh and in no point in the match did Hulk overpower Juggernaut. The fight was a stalemate. But Hulk was the one who ran away......................

No, the Hulk screamed, so Juggernaut must have tried. But then he got angrier and proceeded to grab him. The Hulk didn't run away, he assumed the fight was over because Juggernaut was out of sight for the moment. We'll never know what would've happened next.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
No, the Hulk screamed, so Juggernaut must have tried. But then he got angrier and proceeded to grab him. The Hulk didn't run away, he assumed the fight was over because Juggernaut was out of sight for the moment. We'll never know what would've happened next.
Hulk did scream. But I don't think that was a scream of pain. I think it was a scream of anger. Normaly the writer would put a "krunch" or a "pop" in there if he tried to snap his kneck. Like when Juggies helmet came off you seen the "pop".

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Hulk did scream. But I don't think that was a scream of pain. I think it was a scream of anger. Normaly the writer would put a "krunch" or a "pop" in there if he tried to snap his kneck. Like when Juggies helmet came off you seen the "pop".

That could be true. But maybe he tried and Hulk didn't feel anything? Because suddenly snappig someone's neck is different from trying to spin it. it's not unlikely that Hulk's increasing strength and resistance prevented Juggernaut from moving beyond the muscels in his neck.

But the only real win that any character has over the other was when Juggy almost killed Prof. Hulk in Hulk #402. Prof. Hulk is the most dangersous in my opinion he has all of Savage Hulks strength and the intell. of Banner.

Juggy knocked him out cold.

Here is a bio for Prof. Hulk from a very credible source.

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/professor.html

Absolutely. But Professor Hulk also had several issues: He couldn't get too anry, because it would turn him into Savage Banner, who has normal human strength. The professor Hulk is also generally considered to be more vulnerable, as he's been shown to bleed on many occasions.

Originally posted by hulk=strength
that right their proved ur an idiot in everything hulks ever been featured in (handbooks) it says he has potential for unlimited/infinite strength u really need to read up on him, go to yahoo an type in hulks feats of strength an itll take u to hulkmovies.com an ull b educated cause u need it
ps its funny u say that cause out of these 2 hulks definitely the stronger one in comics even juggs has said their physical equals in 172 i think an hulk was bored in that fight so imagine wat a extremely pissed hulk could do 😉

i know excacully what every handbook says.they also say that apoc has limitlesss strenght.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk strenght is not limitless he only has potentional for limitless strenght

That basically means th same thing. I think what you meant to say was, "Hulk doesn't have infinite strength, he only has potential for infinite strength."
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I remember reading Hulk #172. Doesn't Juggernaut say Hulk attack is getting weaker while he was getting stronger?

Yes, but that's just Juggernaut's statement. it doesn't actually mean Hulk was getting weaker, especially since he still managed to stalemate him.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
But the only real win that any character has over the other was when Juggy almost killed Prof. Hulk in Hulk #402. Prof. Hulk is the most dangersous in my opinion he has all of Savage Hulks strength and the intell. of Banner.

Juggy knocked him out cold.

Here is a bio for Prof. Hulk from a very credible source.

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/professor.html


Maybe if he had prep, he could be the most dangerous; but without that, in physical brawls, Prof. Hulk is a wuss.

Juggs managed to knock him out, but he wasn't close to killing him. All Hulk incarnations, including Prof. hulk, are extremely difficult to kill.

im going to say juggs, because hulk starts at normal strength unless he can just put his power up in an instant, oh no he cant. Dont get me wrong i like both of them but in a physical brawl, i think jugg has this one.

Originally posted by Accel

Juggs managed to knock him out, but he wasn't close to killing him. All Hulk incarnations, including Prof. hulk, are extremely difficult to kill.

That's not what the comic said. Red Skull told Juggy pounding him cause they needed Hulk alive.

Originally posted by Accel
Juggs managed to knock him out, but he wasn't close to killing him. All Hulk incarnations, including Prof. hulk, are extremely difficult to kill.

Ah but he can be killed. I believe juggs has what it takes to kill Hulk.

If Hulk and Juggernaut fought, and Juggernaut was truly determined, he could break hulks neck at the beginning of the fight, he wouldnt even punch him knowing that he would get stronger, and thus harder to kill.

Juggernaut CAN break hulks neck at the beginning of the fight.

Now if Juggernaut fights hulk, this fight could go for awhile, yes hulk at an enraged state could ex-spell all the fatigue from his body, and he can regenerate damage. These are great and all but

Juggernaut doesn't have too.

In this case its a stalemate at best for Hulk.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's not what the comic said. Red Skull told Juggy pounding him cause they needed Hulk alive.

I belive Red Skull was undersestimating Hulk's limitations. The thing is, though, even if Juggernaut broke every one in Hulk's body at that point, it wouldn't be enough. He's comes back from reduced to a skeleton, having his enitre body consumed, and even from being reduced to atoms. It would take more than simple pounding from Juggernaut to kill him.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Ah but he can be killed. I believe juggs has what it takes to kill Hulk.

If Hulk and Juggernaut fought, and Juggernaut was truly determined, he could break hulks neck at the beginning of the fight, he wouldnt even punch him knowing that he would get stronger, and thus harder to kill.

Juggernaut CAN break hulks neck at the beginning of the fight.

Now if Juggernaut fights hulk, this fight could go for awhile, yes hulk at an enraged state could ex-spell all the fatigue from his body, and he can regenerate damage. These are great and all but

Juggernaut doesn't have too.

In this case its a stalemate at best for Hulk.


Even in their first fight, Juggernaut couldn't break Hulk's neck because Hulk managed to get him off; and this was just after a few minutes of fighting each other. Juggernaut could try to break his neck, but Hulok wouldn't let him. If he DID break Hulk's neck, it still wouldn't have killed him, as he's had his neck broken before and managed to heal from it just fine.

Originally posted by Accel
I belive Red Skull was undersestimating Hulk's limitations. The thing is, though, even if Juggernaut broke every one in Hulk's body at that point, it wouldn't be enough. He's comes back from reduced to a skeleton, having his enitre body consumed, and even from being reduced to atoms. It would take more than simple pounding from Juggernaut to kill him.
One question.

What or how is Hulk gonna beat Juggernaut? We saw how Juggy can beat Hulk.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
One question.

What or how is Hulk gonna beat Juggernaut? We saw how Juggy can beat Hulk.


He won't. Unless Hulk gets some sort of telepathy (and I really hope that never happens), he can't take Juggernaut down with pure physical force.

This whole time, I've been arguing that Hulk could stalemate him, being able to fight for as long as it takes, which in this case would be an eternity.

its funny how hulks strength is in debate when its been officialy said so many times that is unlimited......

when its juggs strngth that needs to be debated for it has never ever been officially stated it is unlimited

an i also believe that they would stalemate but hulk would win if it was boxin rules cause of pure savageness

Originally posted by Accel
He won't. Unless Hulk gets some sort of telepathy (and I really hope that never happens), he can't take Juggernaut down with pure physical force.

This whole time, I've been arguing that Hulk could stalemate him, being able to fight for as long as it takes, which in this case would be an eternity.

Well I can accept that. But I don't see Hulk stalemating Juggy everytime though.

Like I said earlier this fight will not come down to strength.

an how was hulk at 100% of his rage if he was he wouldve cracked the armor at the begginin of the fite....