Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Soujaboy486 pages

Originally posted by Dinalfos
The sign of a poor debater is posting irrelevant pictures or presenting self-made theories as facts. You also seem to have a thing for out of continuity stuff

"Because you don't know"

Now you're sounding worse than any fanboy ever could. What kind of argument is that? The scan shows Hulk got impaled. But I'm sure Thor smashed his nutsack with his hammer and sending him flying all around the verse twice before the actual impalement occured 😆

Dude, seriously, Anyone can debate like that.

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He's never been killed(not by Thor or anyone) because he's pretty much physically unbeatable without PIS. Thor can kill him with his other powers(Juggernaut can't, though), but he hasn't done any more than knocking him out unexpectedly with his lightning. Thus, it remains speculation. And let's not forget that Thor is major Marvel character as well. And he faced more dangerous enemies than Hulk and lived survided them.

Until the end of time is, obviously, hyperbole. Because no fight lasts for eternity. Hell, it may very well be possible that Juggernaut isn't allowed to have his magical powers for enternity. And trust me, Juggernaut won't fight Hulk for eternity, unless he's really, really determined. Hulk can last indefinitely when he sets his mind on something. Hulk's mortality comes in when the adrenaline goes down.

How were my pics irrelevent? you stated that Hulk couldn't be killed why he's enraged, and I gave you a pic where he was killed. All I did was give proof to back my claims, something you've still failed to accomplish. Your scans said nothing about Hulk having Unlimited stamina, durability that increases, durability on par with Juggernauts, immortality, can't be killed(already showed what Thor physically did to Hulk), can't be injured, we have yet to see the proof.

That Thor fight was in continuity, it happened in Thor v2 😉

Now your going to say Thor is as big a character as Hulk? 🙄

The only reason Hulk is still alive is because he's a big face, kind of like Wolverine.

We know you think that Hulk can last forever, I just want the scan or proof that says he can.

Originally posted by Soujaboy

We know you think that Hulk can last forever, I just want the scan or proof that says he can.

Me too, I want to see proof of an enraged hulk going on for days, weeks, forever.

Sorta like Juggernaut can do with no problem.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
How were my pics irrelevent? you stated that Hulk couldn't be killed why he's enraged, and I gave you a pic where he was killed. All I did was give proof to back my claims, something you've still failed to accomplish. Your scans said nothing about Hulk having Unlimited stamina, durability that increases, durability on par with Juggernauts, immortality, can't be killed(already showed what Thor physically did to Hulk), can't be injured, we have yet to see the proof.

That Thor fight was in continuity, it happened in Thor v2 😉

Now your going to say Thor is as big a character as Hulk? 🙄

The only reason Hulk is still alive is because he's a big face, kind of like Wolverine.

We know you think that Hulk can last forever, I just want the scan or proof that says he can.

I'm getting tired of you. You're trying to strawman your way out of this. You haven't proven a single thing. Not ANYTHING. And those scans did prove the Hulk's increasing stamina and durability.

As for the rest....I'm not going to keep repeating what I said before about continuity and PIS.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Me too, I want to see proof of an enraged hulk going on for days, weeks, forever.

Sorta like Juggernaut can do with no problem.

We've seen the Juggernaut going on for forever?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I'm getting tired of you. You're trying to strawman your way out of this. You haven't proven a single thing. Not ANYTHING. And those scans did prove the Hulk's increasing stamina and durability.

As for the rest....I'm not going to keep repeating what I said before about continuity and PIS.

Cant convince someone who doesnt listen.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
We've seen the Juggernaut going on for forever?

Your saying he can't?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Can convince someone who doesnt listen.

You're right. He doesn't listen.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Your saying he can't?

Prove it.

"Now show mw proof that Hulk's durability increases, he has unlimited stamina, he cant be ko'd when he's enraged, and that he cant be killed when he's enraged."

Durability increasing:

http://img226.echo.cx/img226/9238/durabilityadamantium4fe.jpg

^^^ Wolverine couldn't even cut his skin^^^

http://img99.echo.cx/img99/9221/durabilitydogowar3hm.jpg

^^^ That thing can crush Adamantium in 7.3 seconds^^^

http://img145.exs.cx/img145/4783/genis5qn.jpg

^^^ A blast 1/2 that powerful took him down earlier, but now he's angrier, and thus more durable. Is that proof enough for request #1?^^^

Unlimited stamina:

http://img147.exs.cx/img147/7043/stamina7a5ka.jpg
http://img147.exs.cx/img147/657/stamina7b8fa.jpg

^^^though he CANNOT TIRE...which part of that don't you understand?^^^

http://img226.echo.cx/img226/4408/stamina63qe.jpg

^^^there he is days into a fight^^^

This is cool. He grabs an energy field:

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/4599/energy5mz.jpg

Breathes underwater:

http://img137.exs.cx/img137/6/underwater7wr.jpg

Speaks in a vacuum:

http://img96.exs.cx/img96/8583/vacuum7ha.jpg

Here he is throwing down with One of the Elders:

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6492/gardener1a9oq.jpg
http://img166.echo.cx/img166/993/featsgardener5zl.jpg

Finally, he he is fighting the Juggernaut:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7126/juggernautih172a7ov.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3733/juggernautih172b7jc.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8090/juggernautih172c2fx.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6931/juggernautih172d9ib.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3692/juggernautih172e0ph.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9702/juggernautih172f0ap.jpg

Notice the third link. That was Juggernaut being stopped. Any questions?

jugs duribilty stamina and strength are at the top, so i dont see y he cant and y would he need to go on forever?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I read in one of his old bios from a handbook and it said that when Juggernaut gets a head of steam there is no object on Earth he cannot move.

That's pretty damn close if you ask me.


That's not strength. Everyone knows that Juggernaut can't be stopped. In order for an object to stop you, it would have to remain unmoved.

In a way, it is strength, but not in the sense of the Hulk's strength.

The Hulk's durability increases with his strength. As Savage Hulk, he withstood an attack - at it's epicenter - that destroyed an entire universe . Doesn't get much more durable than that.

the only thing i dont agree with is him fighting forever.

Found this: It's the Hulk fighting the Asgardian Destroyer

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9672/asgardiandestroyer1a8zu.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2097/asgardiandestroyer1b1aq.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1/asgardiandestroyer1c5em.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4561/asgardiandestroyer1d0kh.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2964/asgardiandestroyer1e9ae.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8549/asgardiandestroyer1f6ok.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4369/asgardiandestroyer1g3pb.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/3460/asgardiandestroyer1h7eh.jpg
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/2958/asgardiandestroyer1h3rd.jpg

Originally posted by branhole
the only thing i dont agree with is him fighting forever.

He would leave eventually, like he does in the comics. However, his bio does say that he has unlimited stamina.

Originally posted by bherrle

Notice the third link. That was Juggernaut being stopped. Any questions?

Ok he stopped him. Big deal. Did you see what Juggernaut said after that.

Was Juggernaut even hurt? What does this prove?

that was meastro in the suit.

hulk doesnt have unlimited stamina. and y does everyone argue that his duribilty increases everyone knows that.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Ok he stopped him. Big deal. Did you see what Juggernaut said after that.

Was Juggernaut even hurt? What does this prove?

You haven't been listening. NOBODY EVER SAID JUGGERNAUT CAN BE HURT. NOBODY. This whole debate was about Hulk's durability and strength.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Ok he stopped him. Big deal. Did you see what Juggernaut said after that.

Was Juggernaut even hurt? What does this prove?


Hulk can't hurt him because Juggernaut can't be hurt, obviously.