Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Soujaboy486 pages
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hey souja about the sig i can't make that one if you can give me another i'll make it tomorrow

Ok, Thanks

What kind of pics can you make sigs with?

They were trading blows, until Juggernaut jumped on top of him. Then Hulk punched Juggernaut. Then Juggernaut kicked Hulk back down. Then he tries to break his neck, but Hulk's strength increases, allowing him to pull juggy overhead and spin him. Juggy's helmet flips off and Juggy crashes into a mountain. Hulk assumes fight is over, Juggernaut is about to attack the Hulk from behind again. Prof. X comes out of nowhere and takes Juggy into custody.

Which is why Hulk didn't get beat down.

How about no? 😄

Originally posted by Soujaboy
No, he kicked hulk like he was nothing, knocked him over a mountain with a shoulder charge. Trust me, he was beating the shit outa Hulk.

And Hulk knocked him over a mountain and threw him into a cliff, as well as stopping his charges twice. It was a stalemate.

I'll post the whole fight

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I don't see the part where Hulk has the advantage nor do I see where Hulk "stopped" Cain? I also dont see where Hulk knocked Cain over the mountain?

Hulk lost that fight, and it would have been worse if the X men wouldn't have came.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Juggernaut was still beating the shit out of Hulk before he was tossed away.
retard he knocks out juggy all the way at the end right before redskull starts screwing with his head.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I'll post the whole fight

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I don't see the part where Hulk has the advantage nor do I see where Hulk "stopped" Cain? I also dont see where Hulk knocked Cain over the mountain?

Hulk lost that fight, and it would have been worse if the X men wouldn't have came.


Hulk didn't lose. He just walked away. If The X-Men hadn't come along, they would have just continued to stalemate.

Hulk knocked Juggs over a large rock (okay, it wasn't a mountain) and he stops Cain from charging in both the second and third scan there.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I'll post the whole fight

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/juggernautih172a7ov.jpg
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I don't see the part where Hulk has the advantage nor do I see where Hulk "stopped" Cain? I also dont see where Hulk knocked Cain over the mountain?

Hulk lost that fight, and it would have been worse if the X men wouldn't have came.

Yes, Hulk really lost that fight 😗

Cain couldn't even K.O a calm Hulk before he could lose his temper again. Btw, I like how Cain gets pulled overhead.....with just one arm and four fingers.

None said Hulk wasn't strong enough to throw Cain? that doesn't mean he's stronger than Cain?

BTW, Hulk was killed by a man with one arm and one eye.

In the third scan Hulk hit Cain in his back. In the third scan Cain was already down when Hulk hit him.

Hulk was getting beat down in more panels. Hulk got off three hits that did no damage while Cain was knocking hulk around inflicting pain.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
None said Hulk wasn't strong enough to throw Cain? that doesn't mean he's stronger than Cain?

BTW, Hulk was killed by a man with one arm and one eye.

In the third scan Hulk hit Cain in his back. In the third scan Cain was already down when Hulk hit him.

Hulk was getting beat down in more panels. Hulk got off three hits that did no damage while Cain was knocking hulk around inflicting pain.


Hitting him away from behind still counts as stopping him. Cain didn't stop charging under his own power in the third scan (he was either stopped by Hulk or the hill they hit).

Hulk took more hits. So what? He still managed to deal quite a few of his own as well and throw Juggs around. Juggs just knocked him down and kicked him again. There was no one-sided ass-kicking, it was a stalemate.

The whole idea that the madder hulk gets, the stronger he gets is flawed. His power doesnt exponentially increase untill it reaches the moon. I recall a crossover where the hulk, unable to defeat an opponent, got mdder and madder until he became so consumed with his own anger that he passed out, reverting to banner. And the juggernaut is not just unstoppable, his characters power is that he is Invulnerable to any physical assualt. thats why it always takes good ol chuck to take him down. I think hul would just keep pounding on juggs until he just lost it and turned back to banner...at which point... JUGG SMASH

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Originally posted by Sea King
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Originally posted by The Human Bomb
The whole idea that the madder hulk gets, the stronger he gets is flawed. His power doesn't exponentially increase untill it reaches the moon. I recall a crossover where the hulk, unable to defeat an opponent, got mdder and madder until he became so consumed with his own anger that he passed out, reverting to banner. And the juggernaut is not just unstoppable, his characters power is that he is Invulnerable to any physical assualt. thats why it always takes good ol chuck to take him down. I think hul would just keep pounding on juggs until he just lost it and turned back to banner...at which point... JUGG SMASH

This is what Hulk fans don't realize. For all of hulks supernatural strength and stamina, his anger is still based off human levels.

There is nothing Supernatural about his anger, human anger has limits, Hulks strength is not unlimited because of this. I don't see whats so hard to understand.

If Juggernaut doesn't kill him at the start of the fight, after a long battle, he eventually would.

I don't understand how anyone could argue a stalemate in this fight, Juggernaut can not be stopped by what Hulk has to offer, nor does he tire, or need to feed, or even breath.

Originally posted by The Human Bomb
The whole idea that the madder hulk gets, the stronger he gets is flawed. His power doesnt exponentially increase untill it reaches the moon. I recall a crossover where the hulk, unable to defeat an opponent, got mdder and madder until he became so consumed with his own anger that he passed out, reverting to banner. And the juggernaut is not just unstoppable, his characters power is that he is Invulnerable to any physical assualt. thats why it always takes good ol chuck to take him down. I think hul would just keep pounding on juggs until he just lost it and turned back to banner...at which point... JUGG SMASH

Hulk was never consumed by his rage. 😬
Originally posted by Apolloknight
This is what Hulk fans don't realize. For all of hulks supernatural strength and stamina, his anger is still based off human levels.

There is nothing Supernatural about his anger, human anger has limits, Hulks strength is not unlimited because of this. I don't see whats so hard to understand.

If Juggernaut doesn't kill him at the start of the fight, after a long battle, he eventually would.

I don't understand how anyone could argue a stalemate in this fight, Juggernaut can not be stopped by what Hulk has to offer, nor does he tire, or need to feed, or even breath.


*sigh*

I've argued this over and over, but apparently it's never enough.

Hulk's strength is not limited to his anger. As a child, Bruce Banner wanted to be strong to protect his mother from his abusive father and that desire for strength remained with (subconsciously I suppose, since Bruce never lifted weights). The Hulk is Banner's suppressed rage and emotions, which includes his desire for strength. No matter how strong Hulk has to become, not only will his anger push him to that level, but so would his desire to be the strongest one there is. In short, no matter how strong his opponent is, if allowed, Hulk can and will surpass him. THAT is why Hulk's strength is unlimited.

All that aside, why CAN'T rage be unlimited. As long as Hulk is fighting, he'll get angrier and angrier. THis doesn't work for most people as they typically have SOME control over what they feel. Hulk, on the other hand, has NO control over his emotions and can easily get angrier, no matter how angry he already is.

I've already argued why Hulk would be able to stalemate Juggs and those posts can be read about 20 pages back.

f*** somebody close this thing. its basically been the same for 322 pages.

Originally posted by Accel
Hulk was never consumed by his rage. 😬

*sigh*

I've argued this over and over, but apparently it's never enough.

Hulk's strength is not limited to his anger. As a child, Bruce Banner wanted to be strong to protect his mother from his abusive father and that desire for strength remained with (subconsciously I suppose, since Bruce never lifted weights). The Hulk is Banner's suppressed rage and emotions, which includes his desire for strength. No matter how strong Hulk has to become, not only will his anger push him to that level, but so would his desire to be the strongest one there is. In short, no matter how strong his opponent is, if allowed, Hulk can and will surpass him. THAT is why Hulk's strength is unlimited.

All that aside, why CAN'T rage be unlimited. As long as Hulk is fighting, he'll get angrier and angrier. THis doesn't work for most people as they typically have SOME control over what they feel. Hulk, on the other hand, has NO control over his emotions and can easily get angrier, no matter how angry he already is.

I've already argued why Hulk would be able to stalemate Juggs and those posts can be read about 20 pages back.

Since when did this happen? For over 40 years Marvel has told us that Hulk's strength increases with rage, which we just proved in numerous threads has a limit. Now your saying that it increase because he wants it to? If that was the case any version of Hulk should have unlimited strength. No offense but that just sounds like a way to make it seem like Hulk has unlimited strength because we have proved the rage theory to be false. I would really like some hard comic or handbook proof of this statement.

Picture a room. Now the room is all bright right? Now close the door and enclose darkness in the room. When the room is completely consumed by darkness, how can it get any more dark? , So how do you make the room darker if the room is already consumed by what your trying to make it increase?

When your mind is completely consumed by rage you cant get any angrier, because your mind is already completely consumed by it.

with Hulk power set, he loses every time.

god damnit, stupid hulk and his unlimited strength, how many times do i have to prove that hulk doesnt have ul strength. ok, if i was mindlessly insane, could i become more insane? excatly, so that proves that mindless was his limit, and jean removed all of his feelings except rage, therefore that was his limit. if all he knew was rage, how could he become stronger? and his strength is based off a limited emotion.

Hulk has some sort of limit which we know nothing of. But we know enough about Cain's power. The Gem of Cytorrak which powers him has no known limits. Juggernaut strenght is immeasurable too. The powersource of the god Cytorrak never runs out of energy and we don't know how much more energy can he get if he is in trouble...