Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
If both fighters are fighting at full potential then Classic Juggernaut has no chance of killing him at all. If you say full potential then Hulk would be fighting at his highest possible rage level. A Hulk like that cannot be killed by Juggernaut.

Hulk's strength is unlimited, because really, "the upper limit to his strength is unknown" is really just a fancy, pseudo-scientific way of saying "His strength is unlimited". The Hulk was designed and developed to be impossibly strong. Adding a bit of nuance is typically Marvel. Besides this, several writers have stated that he is unlimited in strength. Most notably Sal Buscema

And again, you are not listening. This debate is not about beating Juggernaut, it's just some of us defending the Hulk against biased, uninformed fanboys. Nobody ever said Hulk can beat Juggernaut. But I guess you aren't listening.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
If both fighters are fighting at full potential then Classic Juggernaut has no chance of killing him at all. If you say full potential then Hulk would be fighting at his highest possible rage level. A Hulk like that cannot be killed by Juggernaut.

Hulk's strength is unlimited, because really, "the upper limit to his strength is unknown" is really just a fancy, pseudo-scientific way of saying "His strength is unlimited". Besides this, several writers have stated that he is unlimited in strength. Most notably Sal Buscema

And again, you are not listening. This debate is not about beating Juggernaut, it's just some of us defending the Hulk against biased, uninformed fanboys. Nobody ever said Hulk can beat Juggernaut. But I guess you aren't listening.

Then what are we arguing about, close the thread please.

Well, you people can't seem the accept the idea of stalemate.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Well, you people can't seem the accept the idea of stalemate.

Well if it makes you sleep better at night.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Wow you cant argue with Hulk fans. As I've stated before, I love Hulk, he is one of my fav MU characters, but with his Power-Set, There is absolutely, no possible way he can beat Juggernaut, Let me repeat that

[b]THERE IS NO WAY WITH HIS POWER SET HE CAN BEAT JUGGERNAUT....FACT

Now lets look at some other facts, Juggernaut, at the beginning of the fight, can beat hulk if he ain't playing around, and since the rule of this forum clearly say both fighters will fight at full potential, Juggernaut Kills him within the first few minutes, if not seconds of the fight. It has been proved if you do enough damage to overwhelm hulk from the beginning of the fight, you can Kill Him.......RKT anybody...., Let me say that again

IT HAS BEEN PROVEN IF YOU DO ENOUGH DAMAGE TO HULK FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE FIGHT YOU CAN KILL HIM......FACT

Thats all I need right there to convince me, you guys are using false claims and Theory's for your arguments, seems to me like your reaching, Hulks Strength has never been calculated, its not unlimited, Juggernaut Strength is Immeasurable, because is is Unlimited, just like his stamina.

Bottom Line is......

Can Hulk ever beat Juggernaut........NO , THATS A FACT

Can Juggernaut beat Hulk.............YES THATS A FACT

LOL, why am i still arguing this, I cant get through to fan-boys.....

/end discussion...... [/B]

Hulk's strength is unlimited. Doc Samson couldn't measure it. The Leader couldn't build a device to measure it. It was even stated by the Beyonder. It's unlimited whether any one likes it or not. Frankly, I don't see why it's so hard to accept.

Can Hulk beat Juggernaut? No. With just physical strength, Juggernaut cannot be beaten.

Can Juggernaut beat Hulk? Sure, but he'd have to act quick at the beginning of the battle of he wants to knock him out; and Cain is a slow mofo. Otherwise, he'll miss his chance once Hulk's durability increases and they just stalemate.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
at full potential Juggernaut is trion juggernaut which can kill all hulk incarnations together

Originally posted by Accel
Hulk can't be killed by physical means. His showing against RKT goes against all his other consistent showings. the only logical conclusion is that RKT didn't kill him, but rather knock him out (which is possible).

Hulk's strength is unlimited. Doc Samson couldn't measure it. The Leader couldn't build a device to measure it. It was even stated by the Beyonder. It's unlimited whether any one likes it or not. Frankly, I don't see why it's so hard to accept.

Can Hulk beat Juggernaut? No. With just physical strength, Juggernaut cannot be beaten.

Can Juggernaut beat Hulk? Sure, but he'd have to act quick at the beginning of the battle of he wants to knock him out; and Cain is a slow mofo. Otherwise, he'll miss his chance once Hulk's durability increases and they just stalemate.

OMG YOU JUST SAID JUGGS CAN BEAT HULK AT THE BEGINNING OF A BATTLE.

Therefore the only logical answer to this thread is, Juggernaut can beat hulk. Thats it, nothing fancy, we've argued everything there is possible to argue.

No more feats, no more stats on powers or fights, its simple now, Juggernaut can beat Hulk, But Hulk cant beat Juggernaut, its that simple, thats a fact, a very true fact, I can accept it, why cant hulk fans, its so simple, just read it, Fact.

No need to argue this post, its fact, dont even quote this post, because you cant argue it, it's now an absolute in the universe and existence is necessary.

Originally posted by Accel
The thing is, we've seen Juggernaut at full potential, but we've never seen Hulk at full potential.

Err, the one that cracked Onslaughts Armor........

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Err, the one that cracked Onslaughts Armor........

He can only beat him at the beginning if both characters or Hulk alone are not at full potential. If Hulk starts out at full potential then Juggernaut hasn't got what it takes to stop him.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
He can only beat him at the beginning if both characters or Hulk alone are not at full potential. If Hulk starts out at full potential then Juggernaut hasn't got what it takes to stop him.

Ok, we agree Juggernaut can beat Hulk, but Hulk cant beat Juggernaut.
Now that settled.

Now, err, who you guys going for in the NBA Finals? I think the Heat are too inconsistent to pull one out. 😎

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Err, the one that cracked Onslaughts Armor........

That one wasn't necessarily at full potential. Jean removed his psychological burdens, the cap, that prevent him from ever reaching his full potential. With that cap removed, Hulk can now grow angrier than usual. But that doesn't mean he hit a limit, though. He was still getting angrier during the fight.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
That one wasn't necessarily at full potential. Jean removed his psychological burdens, the cap, that prevent him from ever reaching his full potential. With that cap removed, Hulk can now grow angrier than usual. But that doesn't mean he hit a limit, though. He was still getting angrier during the fight.

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Originally posted by Dinalfos
That one wasn't necessarily at full potential. Jean removed his psychological burdens, the cap, that prevent him from ever reaching his full potential. With that cap removed, Hulk can now grow angrier than usual. But that doesn't mean he hit a limit, though. He was still getting angrier during the fight.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
OMG YOU JUST SAID JUGGS CAN BEAT HULK AT THE BEGINNING OF A BATTLE.

Therefore the only logical answer to this thread is, Juggernaut can beat hulk. Thats it, nothing fancy, we've argued everything there is possible to argue.

No more feats, no more stats on powers or fights, its simple now, Juggernaut can beat Hulk, But Hulk cant beat Juggernaut, its that simple, thats a fact, a very true fact, I can accept it, why cant hulk fans, its so simple, just read it, Fact.

No need to argue this post, its fact, dont even quote this post, because you cant argue it, it's now an absolute in the universe and existence is necessary.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Err, the one that cracked Onslaughts Armor........

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
the one that could not handle silver surfer

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
LOL so you are telling that anger is limitless wich is NOT

Originally posted by Accel
I've already argued this point several times. Hulk has no control over his emotions like normal people do. During a fight, Hulk can always get angrier and angrier, no matter how angry he is already.

Can I get some proof, Guess what, A homicidal manic also has no control over his emotions, doesn't mean they are unlimited.

/sigh

surfer has beatenbannerless hulk who is the strongest version of hulk thats it

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
LOL so you are telling that anger is limitless wich is NOT

for you and me? Yeah sure, it's limited. But the Hulk is anger personified. He is best described as a physical mutation of something intangible, like cropped up rage and frustration. The rules of human psychology do not necessarily apply to him, because they don't have to.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
for you and me? Yeah sure, it's limited. But the Hulk is anger personified. He is best described as a physical mutation of something intangible, like cropped up rage and frustration. The rules of human psychology do not necessarily apply to him, because they don't have to.

Where, in any of Hulks bios, does it say that, please give me a link.

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