Originally posted by juggernaut66666
what are you talking about rhino drove his horn into a depwered juggernaut and he was not blending and definetly not dying
'Depowered' Juggernaut. Juggernaut none the less.
He was indeed bleeding.
The argument can be made that the Hulk was "depowered" or "jobbed" when he suffered his defeats.
It works both ways.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
'Depowered' Juggernaut. Juggernaut none the less.He was indeed bleeding.
The argument can be made that the Hulk was "depowered" or "jobbed" when he suffered his defeats.
It works both ways.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
LOL you know shit about juggernaut he was not even bleediing i have the issue in front of me and he got depowerred after the eight day comics
I don't have the issue in front of me, but I definately recall blood.
Like I said, it works both ways.
Inconsitencies happen. Hulk has lost to Namor, and even Juggernaut, but he has beaten people far more powerful than either. That's my point.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
what works both ways?
People say, "So-and-so lost to such-and-such," ("such-and-such being an inferior character,) and hence they ignore "so-and-so's" other far more impressive feats.
I know Juggernaut is physically invincible. But not all writers write him that way. The same is true of the Hulk.
Different writers causes inconsistencies, and it's a common factor among all comic book characters.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
People say, "So-and-so lost to such-and-such," and hence they ignore the characters other far more impressive feats.I know Juggernaut is physically invincible. But not all writers write him that way. It causes inconsistencies, and it's a common factor among all comic book characters.
My Head Hurts, Im going to list two facts, FACTS I say.
Can Hulk Beat Juggernaut with his current power-set? NO, Thats a Fact
Can Hulk Be Defeated/KO'ED/OR Killed, from the start of battle with an overload of Pain? YES, Thats a Fact.
I dont see how this fight can be argued.......
Originally posted by Apolloknight
My Head Hurts, Im going to list two facts, FACTS I say.Can Hulk Beat Juggernaut with his current power-set? NO, Thats a Fact
Can Hulk Be Defeated/KO'ED/OR Killed, from the start of battle with an overload of Pain? YES, Thats a Fact.
I dont see how this fight can be argued.......
Fact? Support this fact, please. When has the Hulk been killed by pain, irrevocably so?
Also, Juggernaut's inability to be knocked out does not mean that he will knock out the Hulk. It isn't that simple.
The Hulk's feats of strength show that he is stronger than Juggernaut. The Hulk can stalemate Juggernaut, and that is a fact. In fact, it's happened multiple times in comic books.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Here's my point:Juggernaut's strength is static, and the Hulk's durability builds with rage. There will be a point at which Juggernaut will not be able to hurt the Hulk, and there will be no point in either of them fighting.
Juggernaut vs Hulk is a stalemate. They are too evenly matched.
Can Hulk Fight Forever???????
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Here's my point:Juggernaut's strength is static, and the Hulk's durability builds with rage. There will be a point at which Juggernaut will not be able to hurt the Hulk, and there will be no point in either of them fighting.
Juggernaut vs Hulk is a stalemate. They are too evenly matched.
Who says Juggernaut's strength is static?
It comes from the same source that granted him unlimited durability and stamina. He moves something forward with his arms, it eventually moves no matter how big it is. Sounds like Unlimited Strength to me.
Originally posted by roughrider
Who says Juggernaut's strength is static?
It comes from the same source that granted him unlimited durability and stamina. He moves something forward with his arms, it eventually moves no matter how big it is. Sounds like Unlimited Strength to me.
Sounds more like unstoppablility.
Juggernaut can't use that power to lift weight, or deliver a more powerful blow.
Therefore it is not "strength" in the literal sense. It is the ability to continue forward progress indefinitely.
Originally posted by roughrider
Who says Juggernaut's strength is static?
It comes from the same source that granted him unlimited durability and stamina. He moves something forward with his arms, it eventually moves no matter how big it is. Sounds like Unlimited Strength to me.
Juggernauts Strength is Immeasurable, never been calculated, and the Upper limits are not known.
Juggernaut Really hasn't shown any feats like the Hulk, because he doesn't need to, also, He doest have as many showings as the Hulk, thats why Hulk fans think Juggernaut is Weaker than Hulk.
I'm not saying Hulk cant become as strong, or stronger then juggernaut, but their base strength levels are leaps and bounds apart.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Prove it, I dont see it in any of his bios that it says his stamina is ulimited, durability and stamina are two different things.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It says that "his stamina is as unlimited as his strength" in the official handbook, but I don't see anything official online to support it. I'll find a scan.
Well Until that happens, After a long fight, Hulk tires, he needs to sleep and feed, Juggernaut Unleashes on him, from physical exhaustion hulk reverts back to banner, and its GG Hulk.
Juggernaut 10/10 after 2 weeks of battle