Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Apolloknight486 pages
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Wow. Are you doing this on purpose?

He pwnd you.

I love when people do that, I hate when its dont to me though.

Originally posted by Accel
We usually go by stories to determine a character's feats. If we just limit ourselves to what the Handbooks say, then we'd scream PIS every time Namor lifted something more than 85 tons.

The handbooks and bios are good for giving newbies the general ideas of characters, but they don't alway accurately display the character.

I already stated that the handbooks are faulty.

But then again the comics are riddled with PIS, the Hulk (Superman , Cap , Spidey and X-men ) are notorious for this.

And Cosmic where is my proof that Hulks Stamina is Unlimited, If you don't proved that, Juggernaut wins after a long battle 10/10, and we can stop arguing.

hulk getting KO'd by RHINO
😆 😆
http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2157181ji.jpg

Originally posted by grey fox
A. We don't accept what characters say as solid fact.

B. Beyonder is full of shit , he thought a human couldn't hurt him. Look where that got him..(FYI : Drained by Doom and Killed by MM)

What about what writers say? What about narration?

What reason would Beyonder have to lie?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
But Hulk will tire, His stamina is not unlimited.

Prove it. Prove that he tired in the middle of a good fight.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
And Cosmic where is my proof that Hulks Stamina is Unlimited, If you don't proved that, Juggernaut wins after a long battle 10/10, and we can stop arguing.

Handbooks and feats. I'll post a scan.

Here's a more viable approach; can you prove that his stamina isn't unlimited?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk getting KO'd by RHINO
😆 😆
http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2157181ji.jpg

Is that the final panel?

yeah it is

Originally posted by Accel
Well, he DID measure Hulk's power using his own power, so I'd say he had a better idea than most others. What does his cockiness have to do with anything?

I'm not saying he's cocky . I'm saying he has an incorrect view on upon power. He thought hulk was 'a infinite of power' he also thought he was Omnipotent and Omniscient. He then got his ass kicked , it really doesn't do much for his credibility.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk getting KO'd by RHINO
😆 😆
http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2157181ji.jpg

Juggernaut got slapped around by Venom the second time they fought. He ran away because he was tired of getting his ass handed.

Does that count?

Originally posted by grey fox
I already stated that the handbooks are faulty.

But then again the comics are riddled with PIS, the Hulk (Superman , Cap , Spidey and X-men ) are notorious for this.


So you think it's PIS for Hulk to have unlimited strength and durability?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk getting KO'd by RHINO
😆 😆
http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2157181ji.jpg

Juggs getting owned by Venom...

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
What about what writers say? What about narration?

What reason would Beyonder have to lie?

But you just said we don't accept the handbooks , which are invariably written and worked upon/with writers . Or at least they are informed by the writers ?

Methinks thou hast backed ones-self a corner ?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Handbooks and feats. I'll post a scan.

Here's a more viable approach; can you prove that his stamina isn't unlimited?

OMG, easily, read any of his profiles.

There, now prove thats his stamina is unlimited.

Originally posted by grey fox
I already stated that the handbooks are faulty.

But then again the comics are riddled with PIS, the Hulk (Superman , Cap , Spidey and X-men ) are notorious for this.

If that is the case, what is the point of debate? Juggernaut's durability may be PIS. We've already seen him get the wind knocked out of him.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
OMG, easily, read any of his profiles.

There, now prove thats his stamina is unlimited.

"Profiles" other than the ones on Marvel.com are non-canon. The fact that the words "the Hulk's stamina is unlimited" do not appear on the page does not mean that this is not the case.

I asked for proof that Hulk will tire.

Originally posted by Accel
So you think it's PIS for Hulk to have unlimited strength and durability?

No , I think it's Pis that Hulk is considered to have 'Unlimited' strength. He can have great , great , GREAT strength. But not unlimited.

Hulk battling the armies of Hel for days.

Originally posted by grey fox
But you just said we don't accept the handbooks , which are invariably written and worked upon/with writers . Or at least they are informed by the writers ?

Methinks thou hast backed ones-self a corner ?


The handbooks are written by a small group of guys who most likely didn't read comics and discuss them like we do here. They just go by what they believe to be true, such that Namor is Class 85, Wolverine mastered every fighting style on Earth, Wonder Man is Class 95, and Nightcrawler is capable of warp speed.