Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Dinalfos486 pages
Originally posted by Sea King
well i think its funny about people sayin that juggs has unlimited durabilty then others saying that well hulk has unlimited strength i mean if someone had UNLIMITED STRENGTH and the other had UNLIMITED DURABILTY think about how that would effect eachother. hulk could out strength juggs but not hurt him like throw him down or across town but it would not hurt juggs

Yes, that's basically what would happen here. So everything comes down to the question whether or not Hulk has unlimited Stamina. There's more evidence that says he does. Or let me put it this way: there's no PISless evidence that shows how he tires in the midst of battle. Perhaps the best way to describe his stamina is "indefinite".

Originally posted by Accel
Superman was depowered and it happened in a non-canon crossover, so that fight holds no bearing in this debate.
Clutching Straws.

No , I can accept what happens in a comic , as long as it's within the characters power set.

EG : Wolverine taking down ninjas = Acceptable , Bone Claw Wolverine cutting Thanos = Bullshit.

Originally posted by Sea King
well i think its funny about people sayin that juggs has unlimited durabilty then others saying that well hulk has unlimited strength i mean if someone had UNLIMITED STRENGTH and the other had UNLIMITED DURABILTY think about how that would effect eachother. hulk could out strength juggs but not hurt him like throw him down or across town but it would not hurt juggs

This is EXACTLY what I'm trying to say.

Juggernaut supporters say that since Hulk can't KO Juggernaut, Juggernaut wins by default. This clearly isn't the case.

Wolverine Surviving Nuclear Blast = Bullshit

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Juggernaut got slapped around by Venom the second time they fought. He ran away because he was tired of getting his ass handed.

Does that count?

Venom was mutanting that enhanched his strenght and durability. Juggernaut only went away because he felt sorry for the girl. You should read the comics that you bring up and instead of giving fake information always show proof.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Clutching Straws.

Indeed.
Originally posted by grey fox
No , I can accept what happens in a comic , as long as it's within the characters power set.

EG : Wolverine taking down ninjas = Acceptable , Bone Claw Wolverine cutting Thanos = Bullshit.


...and continually increasing strength has been shown time and time again to be within Hulk's powerset.

Originally posted by grey fox
No , I can accept what happens in a comic , as long as it's within the characters power set.

EG : Wolverine taking down ninjas = Acceptable , Bone Claw Wolverine cutting Thanos = Bullshit.

Exactly. Hulk doing anything regarding strength is within his power set.

Juggy doing anything regarding durability is within his power set.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube ]Precisely. If you want to go by comics alone, I can still prove that the Hulk's strength is potentially limitless.

Whereas Juggernauts IS limitless.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Venom was mutanting that enhanched his strenght and durability. Juggernaut only went away because he felt sorry for the girl. You should read the comics that you bring up and instead of giving fake information always show proof.

So because Venom's strength was enhanced to some degree, that makes him beating Juggernaut around all right? 😕

Originally posted by Accel
Indeed.

...and continually increasing strength has been shown time and time again to be within Hulk's powerset.

So you agree , that something which you just stated is false....

Huh ?

Originally posted by Rewmac
Venom was mutanting that enhanched his strenght and durability. Juggernaut only went away because he felt sorry for the girl. You should read the comics that you bring up and instead of giving fake information always show proof.

No. Show the panel. It says something like "I'm tired of getting whooped" or whatever. Show it.

Originally posted by grey fox
So you agree , that something which you just stated is false....

Huh ?


No, I assumed he was referring to you since I dismissed the fight you brought up as faulty.

What do you mean, "Huh?" What's not to get?

Originally posted by grey fox
Whereas Juggernauts [b]IS limitless. [/B]

Good point.

However, the fact that Juggernaut cannot be hurt doesn't mean that the Hulk must subcumb. The Hulk has numerous other advantages to keep him in the fight, mainly strength.

The Hulk has shown on almost every encounter they've had that he can outmuscle Juggernaut.

Originally posted by grey fox
Whereas Juggernauts [b]IS limitless. [/B]

How can it be limitless? He only has 30 or so % of Cyttorak's power. Are you saying 30% equals 100%?

Originally posted by grey fox
So you agree , that something which you just stated is false....

Huh ?

He was replying to my statement that you were "clutching straws." Look at the quote above that remark.

Originally posted by Accel
No, I assumed he was referring to you since I dismissed the fight you brought up as faulty.

What do you mean, "Huh?" What's not to get?

No , it seemed like you were defending supes losing to venom . Then you suddenly disagreed with yourself.

It seemed odd from my view point.

Originally posted by Accel
So because Venom's strength was enhanced to some degree, that makes him beating Juggernaut around all right? 😕

Especially for someone with limitless durability.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He was replying to my statement that you were "clutching straws." Look at the quote above that remark.

What do you mean I was "Cutching straws?"

I pretty much made the same statement about the Venom/Supes fight you did.

Originally posted by grey fox
No , it seemed like you were defending supes losing to venom . Then you suddenly disagreed with yourself.

It seemed odd from my view point.

The reply "indeed" was directed at me. My quote was directly above it. Not too confusing.

Now, back to the matter at hand.