Originally posted by Apolloknight
Well where it is?
Here is he is running away scared...
Originally posted by Big SexyYeah he can be up there but no way should Venom or Carbage with at best 50 ton strength hang with big boys like Thor or Hulk or Juggernaut who can flick 50 tons with their finger.
I would say hes more of a high end street leveler. Who would you say is the top at a street level
Originally posted by Accel
Here he is being STOPPED by Venom's back hand...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6054248Here is he is running away scared...
ok u showed he was scared and he got knocked backwards but not stoped or beat by force
Originally posted by Accel
Here he is being STOPPED by Venom's back hand...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6054248Here is he is running away scared...
Bullshit.
I see jugg's on the floor , standing up again , only to be knocked back by a backhander.
Also , he's leaving because he expected easy work . 'I'm not paid to take this kinda abuse'. He's more worried about his GODDAMN money then his life . If he was scared then he'd actually be frightened.
Use your eyes.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Where have i been whining and b****ing, please quote me, I have stated nothing but facts, I like Juggernaut and Hulk Equally. I mean, you guys are the ones stating Theory's and dismissing everything as PIS, did i ever Dismiss the whole Venom thing, NO, I accepted, hey it happened, but you must realize in that fight, that Juggernaut did not want to fight, and Venom was enhanced.So like I said, please quote where I'm whining and stating anything but facts.
First, I'm going to show you the message that runs through all of the post from Juggernaut fans:
Originally posted by bigbran
face it hulk deosnt have unlimited streangth, if he did he wouldnt have probs with, thing, abom, rhino, thor, leader, wends, the list goes on and on and on....
Originally posted by grey fox
Whereas Juggernauts [b]IS limitless. [/B]
Now as for you:
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Stamina and Durability are Two Different Things, Hulk has Shown amazing Feats of Durability I will admit.But even he cannot go on forever. Think About it....
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Heck, If you want to go off Marvel.com, it says nothing about his stamina, it makes the situation worse for Hulk.....
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Juggernauts Strength is Immeasurable, never been calculated, and the Upper limits are not known.Juggernaut Really hasn't shown any feats like the Hulk, because he doesn't need to, also, He doest have as many showings as the Hulk, thats why Hulk fans think Juggernaut is Weaker than Hulk.
I'm not saying Hulk cant become as strong, or stronger then juggernaut, but their base strength levels are leaps and bounds apart.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Well Until that happens, After a long fight, Hulk tires, he needs to sleep and feed, Juggernaut Unleashes on him, from physical exhaustion hulk reverts back to banner, and its GG Hulk.Juggernaut 10/10 after 2 weeks of battle
Just because Cosmic Cube doesn't have the scan, doesn't mean the opposite is true, does it? I have questions myself regarding his exact stamina, but the Hulk was NEVER shown to tire during a raging battle. Never. And if he does, like in the first battle with Juggy, the fatique quickly vanishes when his strength increases. Also, the tiring contradicts higher showings of Hulk.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
*Hands you a map to the last 30 pages*You are argueing points that have already been proven fact, by Other Hulk fans also, in the last 30 pages, go read them.
Pure speculation. Mostly because you didn't present any proof.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Soujaboy, its useless, you cant argue with these guys, they cant understand a very simple and true fact that....Hulks Powerset cannot beat Juggernaut
Juggernaust Powerset can beat the Hulk
Its not rocket science ya know.
Again, speculation, ignoring all the counter arguments.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Err, the one that cracked Onslaughts Armor........
This is probably the worst of them all. It was about the limit of Hulk's rage.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
This is what Hulk fans don't realize. For all of hulks supernatural strength and stamina, his anger is still based off human levels.There is nothing Supernatural about his anger, human anger has limits, Hulks strength is not unlimited because of this. I don't see whats so hard to understand.
If Juggernaut doesn't kill him at the start of the fight, after a long battle, he eventually would.
I don't understand how anyone could argue a stalemate in this fight, Juggernaut can not be stopped by what Hulk has to offer, nor does he tire, or need to feed, or even breath.
No wait, I was wrong. This one is far worse.
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Oh and don't get me started on posts from guys like Branhole/Bigbran.
Originally posted by Big SexyYeah but not easily meaning that venom is at best in the 50 ton range he is no where near class 100 and even father from characters like Thor.
yeah me too. But he weird considering carnage is like a class 50 yet in their earlier encounters he needed spidermans help but in their later ones he could handle carnage by himself.
Originally posted by grey fox
Bullshit.I see jugg's on the floor , standing up again , only to be knocked back by a backhander.
Also , he's leaving because he expected easy work . 'I'm not paid to take this kinda abuse'. He's more worried about his GODDAMN money then his life . If he was scared then he'd actually be frightened.
Use your eyes.
In the last and second-to-last panels on the first scan, Juggs goes to punch Venom, who STOPS him by backhanding him.
Originally posted by Accel
He's running away after referring to Venom's beating as "abuse." What more do you need?In the last and second-to-last panels on the first scan, Juggs goes to punch Venom, who STOPS him by backhanding him.
Oh yes, you really need to charge at someone to punch at them.
Define abusemistreat: treat badly; "This boss abuses his workers"; "She is always stepping on others to get ahead"
Originally posted by grey fox
Please , calling me a fan just because i see common sense.How childish.
This is not a matter of common sense. We all know that Juggernaut cannot be Ko'd easily. This was mainly about Hulk's stamina and durability. And to say that it is common sense to believe that an enraged Hulk doesn't have unlimited stamina, without any proof to back it up, isn't exactly common sense.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
This is not a matter of common sense. We all know that Juggernaut cannot be Ko'd easily. This was mainly about Hulk's stamina and durability. And to say that it is common sense to believe that an enraged Hulk doesn't have unlimited stamina, without any proof to back it up, isn't exactly common sense.
No , my comment had nothing to do with stamina and yet you still quoted it.
It was to do with strength.
Originally posted by grey fox
Oh yes, you really need to charge at someone to punch at them.
When someone takes a beating and then says,"I don't need this abuse!" he can only be referring to the physical abuse that he just went through.
Originally posted by Accel
Do you think he just standing there the whole time with his arm up and not moving?When someone takes a beating and then says,"I don't need this abuse!" he can only be referring to the physical abuse that he just went through.
yet again i ask were did it show him being stoped not running away but stoped??