Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Soujaboy486 pages
Originally posted by Dinalfos
I'm not arguing with Marvel.

Your just in denial 😮

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Please look at yourself, and then slap the hell out yourself. That was posted over a year ago, a long time before Planet Hulk, and when Juggernaut was classic Juggernaut.

What does that have to do with anything?

BTW it is in issue 424

Originally posted by Dinalfos
What does that have to do with anything?

They were talking about Classic Juggernaut, and Savage Hulk. Why would Prof Hulk be considered as one of the strongest beings in the Marvel universe.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
They were talking about Classic Juggernaut, and Savage Hulk. Why would Prof Hulk be considered as one of the strongest beings in the Marvel universe.

They were not talking about Savage Hulk. They usually don't, because they like to to talk about just "Hulk". All of them are essentially the same core character(Bruce Banner), so they call him Hulk. Why else would they say "CURRENT"?

What are we talking about?????
Current, or past????

And juggernaut666666 iff you can't take it that people disagree with something, stay out of debate's, or don't act like a little kid.
They changed a lot since the first time they met, so I think this topic should never close.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
They were not talking about Savage Hulk. They usually don't, because they like to to talk about just "Hulk". All of them are essentially the same core character(Bruce Banner), so they call him Hulk. Why else would they say "CURRENT"?

Ok, stay in denial. Either way Juggernauts strength is unlimited and thus he can defeat Savage Hulk, Mindless Hulk, Prof Hulk, ass Hulk, ***** ass Hulk, or whatever other Hulk you can pull out of your ass.

Originally posted by Brutacus
What are we talking about?????
Current, or past????

And juggernaut666666 iff you can't take it that people disagree with something, stay out of debate's, or don't act like a little kid.
They changed a lot since the first time they met, so I think this topic should never close.


hey they are disagreeing with the marvel HQ opinion Hello There

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hey they are disagreeing with the marvel HQ opinion Hello There

No, we're not. Read carefully.

http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/comics/comic-show.asp?Id=tih2&Issue=419

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Ok, stay in denial. Either way Juggernauts strength is unlimited and thus he can defeat Savage Hulk, Mindless Hulk, Prof Hulk, ass Hulk, ***** ass Hulk, or whatever other Hulk you can pull out of your ass.

no you are wrong because they are the leaders of the marvel HQ and they have changed there opinions with time so nowdays no one can beat hulk 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Ok, stay in denial. Either way Juggernauts strength is unlimited and thus he can defeat Savage Hulk, Mindless Hulk, Prof Hulk, ass Hulk, ***** ass Hulk, or whatever other Hulk you can pull out of your ass.

Then why did it take Juggernaut so long to dig himself out? If there's one place where there is enough time to "focus", it must be beneath billions of of tons of rock. He could've called upon "unlimited" power and throw it all off with one swipe.

And if you're going to bring up Juggernaut's lack of experience, then maybe you can explain why War Hulk stopped him? There's plenty of time to focus when engaging in a straight pushing contest.

Well what juggernaut where they talking about and what hulk??

Originally posted by Soujaboy
http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/comics/comic-show.asp?Id=tih2&Issue=419

Yes? What about it?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Then why did it take Juggernaut so long to dig himself out? If there's one place where there is enough time to "focus", it must be beneath billions of of tons of rock. He could've called upon "unlimited" power and throw it all off with one swipe.

And if you're going to bring up Juggernaut's lack of experience, then maybe you can explain why War Hulk stopped him? There's plenty of time to focus when engaging in a straight pushing contest.


war hulk was getting power from 2 other universes other dimensional powers weaken juggernaut like in all new exiles he got sent to another dimension and he got weakend and became vulnerable it was before onslaught saga

Originally posted by Brutacus
Well what juggernaut where they talking about and what hulk??

Current Juggernaut(as of issue 419) means classic Juggernaut. If he can call upon unlimited power(which smells like a cheap retcon to me), then it MUST be classic.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
war hulk was getting power from 2 other universes other dimensional powers weaken juggernaut like in all new exiles he got sent to another dimension and he got weakend and became vulnerable it was before onslaught saga

No, War Hulk was gettting his own strength(which he himself drew from two dimensions) harnessed by the Celestial tech. The dimensional powers, much like the magic does for juggernaut, were used to augment Hulk's strength. Nothing more. There was nothing to negate Juggernaut's magic with.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Then why did it take Juggernaut so long to dig himself out? If there's one place where there is enough time to "focus", it must be beneath billions of of tons of rock. He could've called upon "unlimited" power and throw it all off with one swipe.

And if you're going to bring up Juggernaut's lack of experience, then maybe you can explain why War Hulk stopped him? There's plenty of time to focus when engaging in a straight pushing contest.

While I explain this to you, can you explain to me why the Hulk has been ko'd by Spider Man?

Anyways, it took him 10 years to dig out of the rubble because of a plot device. Charles needed time to put together the X Men and a defense system. If Cain would have broke out in one swipe, there would be no Charles Xavier, and thus no X Men. Would you like that?

War Hulk was empowered with celestial Tech, and the power of two dimensions. If you knew anything about Juggernaut, you would know that outside dimensions sometimes disturb his connection with Cyttorak. Even with This drawback he was holding his own against War Hulk.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
No, War Hulk was gettting his own strength(which he himself drew from two dimensions) harnessed by the Celestial tech. The dimensional powers, much like the magic does for juggernaut, were used to augment Hulk's strength. Nothing more. There was nothing to negate Juggernaut's magic with.

You should read up a liitle bit more

Originally posted by Soujaboy
While I explain this to you, can you explain to me why the Hulk has been ko'd by Spider Man?

Anyways, it took him 10 years to dig out of the rubble because of a plot device. Charles needed time to put together the X Men and a defense system. If Cain would have broke out in one swipe, there would be no Charles Xavier, and thus no X Men. Would you like that?

War Hulk was empowered with celestial Tech, and the power of two dimensions. If you knew anything about Juggernaut, you would know that outside dimensions sometimes disturb his connection with Cyttorak. Even with This drawback he was holding his own against War Hulk.

No, it took him ten years to dig himself out because he wasn't supposed to have "unlimited strength". It smells like something that was made up by the writer, so that he could "match" the Hulk. And there's still more on panel evidence that shows he doesn't have it. Now, if the writers say he has it, then he has it. But it's not exactly a flattering way of dealing with it. Besides, that still doesn't mean Juggernaut can beat Hulk, since he has unlimited strength as well. And he doesn't have to "focus" to keep growing.

Spiderman ko'd him because he did. There is no explaining that. They made him do it. Just as they made Venom smack the Juggernaut around, and let Onslaught Ko him. Same story. But this particular intance is much more of a plot device than Juggernaut not being able to dig himself out. Spiderman shouldn't KO Hulk when much, much, much stronger opponents, including Juggernaut, couldn't. Not under normal circumsances anyway.

And come on, Juggernaut was overpowered. The energy from two universes was only tapped into by the Celestial tech. The energy was in his muscles. It didn't negate anything because it didn't touch him. And I noticed how you said "sometimes". Face it, he was stopped with physical force. Period.