Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Accel486 pages

Originally posted by Dinalfos
That ed's note said "current opinion". In case you didn't know, "current" Hulk, at the time, is supposed to mean Prof. Hulk. Prof. Hulk is far, far, far from the strongest character in the Marvel Universe. That much is true.

I wouldn't say that. PRof. Hulk was a pansy, but he wasn't a weakling.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
stop this BLAH BLAH BLAH bullshit now you are arguing with marvel headquartes official opinion tha Juggernaut is stronger than Hulk so just SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting you'd say that, because even though it's been stated by Marvel countless times on panel that Hulk was the strongest, people would still deny that he was stronger than Juggernaut.

😄😄😄😄😄😄 It is only stated by Hulk fans

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
😄😄😄😄😄😄 It is only stated by Hulk fans

It's been stated by Marvel plenty of times. 😉

Originally posted by Dinalfos
No, it took him ten years to dig himself out because he wasn't supposed to have "unlimited strength". It smells like something that was made up by the writer, so that he could "match" the Hulk. And there's still more on panel evidence that shows he doesn't have it. Now, if the writers say he has it, then he has it. But it's not exactly a flattering way of dealing with it. Besides, that still doesn't mean Juggernaut can beat Hulk, since he has unlimited strength as well. And he doesn't have to "focus" to keep growing.

Spiderman ko'd him because he did. There is no explaining that. They made him do it. Just as they made Venom smack the Juggernaut around, and let Onslaught Ko him. Same story. But this particular intance is much more of a plot device than Juggernaut not being able to dig himself out. Spiderman shouldn't KO Hulk when much, much, much stronger opponents, including Juggernaut, couldn't. Not under normal circumsances anyway.

And come on, Juggernaut was overpowered. The energy from two universes was only tapped into by the Celestial tech. The energy was in his muscles. It didn't negate anything because it didn't touch him. And I noticed how you said "sometimes". Face it, he was stopped with physical force. Period.

Shut the Hell up

Your this upset because Juggernaut has unlimited strength? your this upset because someone besides the Hulk has unliited strength? he was stuck in a pile of rocks for a few years, who cares? The X men needed to be formed and Charles protected so thats was the story given.

It was clear that War hulk was drawing power from a different dimension, and this was affecting Cains power. Cain was ultimately stopped, who cares he still has unlimited strength.

Originally posted by Accel
It's been stated by Marvel plenty of times. 😉

show me some proof

Originally posted by Accel
It's been stated by Marvel plenty of times. 😉

It's also been stated that Cain was the strongest.

Just because a character has there own comic title, runs around screaming Hulk smash, and I'm the strongest one there is doesn't make it true.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
show me some proof

*sigh*

“The strongest creature to walk the Earth.”
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6656/strongestasm146ro.jpg

"Most powerful creature to ever walk the Earth."
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3336/mostpowerful5iu.jpg

"There is no force stronger than the Hulk."
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8582/featsflameoflife1c6gm.jpg

Originally posted by Accel
I wouldn't say that. PRof. Hulk was a pansy, but he wasn't a weakling.

Interesting you'd say that, because even though it's been stated by Marvel countless times on panel that Hulk was the strongest, people would still deny that he was stronger than Juggernaut.

I didn't say anything about him being a weakling, now did I? 😉

Originally posted by Soujaboy
It's also been stated that Cain was the strongest.

Just because a character has there own comic title, runs around screaming Hulk smash, and I'm the strongest one there is doesn't make it true.


Yes, however, it's been continuously stated by Marvel themselves that Hulk was the strongest.

It's just the way it is.

In terms of durability, Juggernaut > Hulk.

In terms of strength, Hulk > Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I didn't say anything about him being a weakling, now did I? 😉

No, but it's easy to get that impression when you say he's far, far, FAR form being the strongest.

Originally posted by Accel
*sigh*

“The strongest creature to walk the Earth.”
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6656/strongestasm146ro.jpg

"Most powerful creature to ever walk the Earth."
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3336/mostpowerful5iu.jpg

"There is no force stronger than the Hulk."
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8582/featsflameoflife1c6gm.jpg

You can take that hyperbole how you wan't it, doesn't what Marvel stated about Cain Marko.

hulk writers wrote those letters not the marvel hq and even hulk writers admited that the warhulk juggernaut fight doesn't count since hulk was boosted

Originally posted by Accel
Yes, however, it's been continuously stated by Marvel themselves that Hulk was the strongest.

It's just the way it is.

In terms of durability, Juggernaut > Hulk.

In terms of strength, Hulk > Juggernaut.

Thats your opinion. Marvel just stated in a Hulk comic That Marvel hq believed Juggernaut to be the strongest.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk writers wrote those letters not the marvel hq and even hulk writers admited that the warhulk juggernaut fight doesn't count since hulk was boosted

It was actually marvel HQ who believe cain to be stronger than Hulk, which the editor just wrote. We all know what marvel hq says, go's.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Shut the Hell up

Your this upset because Juggernaut has unlimited strength? your this upset because someone besides the Hulk has unliited strength? he was stuck in a pile of rocks for a few years, who cares? The X men needed to be formed and Charles protected so thats was the story given.

It was clear that War hulk was drawing power from a different dimension, and this was affecting Cains power. Cain was ultimately stopped, who cares he still has unlimited strength.

And you're telling me you're not a fanboy? Sheesh.

I'm not upset. Anyway, more arguing, less bickering.

And no, it wasn't clear at all. The only thing that was clear is that the Hulk was drawing powers from two dimensions(all by himself!), which made him stronger. Your argument doesn't make sense, because the Hulk has ALWAYS been drawing strength from another universe, just like everybody else on earth with major physical powers. Really, you are now grasping at straws. What happened on panel was blatantly clear.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
It was actually marvel HQ who believe cain to be stronger than Hulk, which the editor just wrote. We all know what marvel hq says, go's.

The strongest creature to walk the Earth.”
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/...estasm146ro.jpg

"Most powerful creature to ever walk the Earth."
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/...powerful5iu.jpg

"There is no force stronger than the Hulk."
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/85...oflife1c6gm.jpg

i was talking about these

Originally posted by Dinalfos
And you're telling me you're not a fanboy? Sheesh.

I'm not upset. Anyway, more arguing, less bickering.

And no, it wasn't clear at all. The only thing that was clear is that the Hulk was drawing powers from two dimensions(all by himself!), which made him stronger. Your argument doesn't make sense, because the Hulk has ALWAYS been drawing strength from another universe, just like everybody else on earth with major physical powers. Really, you are now grasping at straws. What happened on panel was blatantly clear.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Did I just here fanboy from you? wow thats funny.

With your recent history I don't think you should be throwing the word fanboy around.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
It was actually marvel HQ who believe cain to be stronger than Hulk, which the editor just wrote. We all know what marvel hq says, go's.

They "CURRENTLY" (yes, currently!) believe that Juggernaut is stronger than Hulk, because Prof Hulk isn't the strongest character in the Marvel Universe.

Currently meaning anno 1994.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You can take that hyperbole how you wan't it, doesn't what Marvel stated about Cain Marko.

So it's hyperbole when Marvel says Hulk is the strongest, but not when they say Juggernaut is the strongest? 🤨
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
hulk writers wrote those letters not the marvel hq and even hulk writers admited that the warhulk juggernaut fight doesn't count since hulk was boosted

Hulk writers also wrote the comics where it was stated that Hulk was the strongest (duh!) and wrote his strength feats to prove it.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats your opinion. Marvel just stated in a Hulk comic That Marvel hq believed Juggernaut to be the strongest.

Marvel also stated that Hulk ws the strongest ON PANEL, so it's not really my opinion, just fact. This is also backed up by his strength feats, which I'm sure you've seen.

If you want to deny it based off the vague implications off of one letter, fine. However, keep in mind that if that was written a year agao, then it makes sense, seeing as how nowadays Hulk gets beaten by Spider-Man, but it doesn't affect Savage Hulk in the least.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
The strongest creature to walk the Earth.”
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/...estasm146ro.jpg

"Most powerful creature to ever walk the Earth."
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/...powerful5iu.jpg

"There is no force stronger than the Hulk."
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/85...oflife1c6gm.jpg

i was talking about these


You asked for proof. I gave it to you.