Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Dinalfos486 pages

Originally posted by Soujaboy
How many times do I have to show you evidence before you quit complaining? You asked me to show that Hulk can be physically killed, I show you a scan of Thor killing him with one arm. You start complaining saying that it's PIS and it shouldn't have happened. You ask me to show that Cain has unlimited strength, I show you a scan of a Marvel editor stating that Cain has unlimited strength and is stronger than the Hulk. You start to complain saying that Hulk is supposed to be the strongest.

😐

I just gave you evidence that Juggernaut is stronger than the Hulk, so how can I deny what isn't true?

We already went over all that.

Anyway, I'm glad you finally showed the scan, as I've been hearing about this for months. Because now I can see the context. And as I expected from you, things aren't quite so clear cut as you say they are, so I guess I have to thank you.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Denial

You are no fun.

Originally posted by Accel
How so?

Marvel hq has stated that due to the fact that Cain Marko could once call upon the limitless power of cyttorak this makes him the strongest. So how could savage Hulk be more powerful? or mindless for that matter?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Marvel hq has stated that due to the fact that Cain Marko could once call upon the limitless power of cyttorak this makes him the strongest. So how could savage Hulk be more powerful? or mindless for that matter?

Hulk has limitless strength, it's his tagline, his most famous attribute.

I must admit I thought this was actually impossible, I refuse to believe such a thing is even possible.

I came back, on pure chance, and this is the first thread I see.

-AC

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Marvel hq has stated that due to the fact that Cain Marko could once call upon the limitless power of cyttorak this makes him the strongest. So how could savage Hulk be more powerful? or mindless for that matter?

Because he also has unlimited strength, as well as the strength feats to back it up. Two people can both have unlimited strength, but that doesn't mean they are always equal in strength.

Marvel has also stated several times that Hulk is the strongest and all of a sudden one vague letter negates all of that? 😕

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Wre going to talk about Savage Hulk and Classic Juggernaut.

Stalemate, this must be the 100 time I say this, ok explain it one more time, it's not really the strenght that's going to do it here for neither one, CLASSIC juggernaut can't be harmed, SAVAGE hulk heals in like seconds, and no I do not say hulk will win every time against a character but against a powerhouse who can't take his gamma radation away or speedblitz him or calm him down.
I don't see how someone will take him out, and no he won't turn back in banner unless the fighting stops, and yes he can stay alive without water or food, because he looked himself up in a cave for years so deal with it.

Same goes for juggernaut can't see a powerhouse hurt him, unless he got telepathy or something magical, they won't harm him.

So stalmate.

You've got to understand guys, Stan Lee himself could come here and say that Hulk is stronger and you'd get people debating against him.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hulk has limitless strength, it's his tagline, his most famous attribute.

I must admit I thought this was actually impossible, I refuse to believe such a thing is even possible.

I came back, on pure chance, and this is the first thread I see.

-AC

Don't confuse infinite(neverending strength) with unlimited(neverending growth of strength). The latter is easier to imagine.

Originally posted by Accel
Because he also has unlimited strength, as well as the strength feats to back it up. Two people can both have unlimited strength, but that doesn't mean they are always equal in strength.

Marvel has also stated several times that Hulk is the strongest and all of a sudden one vague letter negates all of that? 😕

When has Marvel stated that Hulk is the strongest? Never have I seen an Officialy article that claims that Hulk is official the strongest.

There are also feats that show Hulk isn't the strongest but you ignore those.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
When has Marvel stated that Hulk is the strongest? Never have I seen an Officialy article that claims that Hulk is official the strongest.

There are also feats that show Hulk isn't the strongest but you ignore those.


I just posted scans for Jugg6666 a page or two back if you want to see them again. Hulk's consistent feats prove he's the strongest. His feats surpass every one else's but Superman's feats. There's no denying that.

And besides all the in-your-face evidence, there's also the fact that Hulk is simply "known" as the strongest. It's the image that Marvel wanted for him.

Originally posted by Accel
His feats surpass every one else's but Superman's feats. There's no denying that.
That's not entirely true. Other people have some feats that would minimalize Hulk's.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's not entirely true. Other people have some feats that would minimalize Hulk's.

I'm referring to his greatest ones. Obviously on average his feats would match up to lower bricks like Thing or Colossus.

Originally posted by Accel
I just posted scans for Jugg6666 a page or two back if you want to see them again. Hulk's consistent feats prove he's the strongest. His feats surpass every one else's but Superman's feats. There's no denying that.

Not True

Originally posted by Accel
I'm referring to his greatest ones. Obviously on average his feats would match up to lower bricks like Thing or Colossus.
Other than the fanciful ones like antimatter-matter etc. I recall lifting the mass of rock in Secret Wars as one of his high end lifting feats IIRC. Other people's high end feats match that.

Originally posted by Accel
I'm referring to his greatest ones. Obviously on average his feats would match up to lower bricks like Thing or Colossus.

You wan't to compare his feats with thor? lets see whos feats are greater.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Other than the fanciful ones like antimatter-matter etc. I recall lifting the mass of rock in Secret Wars as one of his high end lifting feats IIRC. Other people's high end feats match that.

He's also broken a device that could withstand attacks from Celestials, lit up universe with a punch, shook the multiverse with a punch, etc.

The mountain feat is his most famous one, but Hulk's done some truly insane stuff in the past.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You wan't to compare his feats with thor? lets see whos feats are greater.

We've done this already.

Originally posted by Accel
We've done this already.

Thors feats trump Hulks feats by so much it isn't even funny.

Originally posted by Accel
He's also broken a device that could withstand attacks from Celestials, lit up universe with a punch, shook the multiverse with a punch, etc.

The mountain feat is his most famous one, but Hulk's done some truly insane stuff in the past.

Which is why I said other than the fanciful ones...