Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Apolloknight486 pages

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Not every Hulk fan/defender on KMC thinks alike. Since we're not "on the same page", according to yourself. So I guess that means no generalizing of Hulk-fans, eh? Or are we only on the same page if you want us to be?

Anyway, develope your reading skills a little.

Man you like to poke unimportant, off topic jokes at people, I apologize for offending your precious Hulk.

Don't pass a Kidney Stone over this. 😆

Off course hulk would lose in a fight against galactus in a second,

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Man you like to poke unimportant, off topic jokes at people, I apologize for offending your precious Hulk.

Don't pass a Kidney Stone over this. 😆

Nah, I'm just allowing you to bite yourself in teh arse. No big deal, man 😉

If you really think I'm actually getting worked up over something on teh interwebs, you'd be more than a little bit wrong.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Nah, I'm just allowing you to bite yourself in teh arse. No big deal, man 😉

If you really think I'm actually getting worked up over something on teh interwebs, you'd be more than a little bit wrong.

Your my hero man. 🙂

1. I say Juggernaut can increase strength through focus/will and you argue i dont have enough proof. I say i do and i realized i do its just that I piece the information together using logic. You refuse to use logic in that situation and do not piece the information together. "Gee maybe since Juggernaut always has the strength to do what he wants, even trion getting through to the trion dimension, maybe its because he gains the strength when he needs it."

2. When i said Hulk cannot fight for an eternity on adreniline, you say he can and show small feats of a maximum time of a few months. Now since i have a brain and logic i pieced to together to say maybe he can last forever. Even though it is never stated he can last an eternity.

3. I could have just used your logic to say "lack of proof" and say hulk dies of exaustion. So now i ask you hulk fans to use logic and realize that Juggernaut can increase strength through focus, otherwise the theory that Hulk dies of exaustion is still plausible because i will just use "Hulk" logic back on you.

4. Since this is bloodlust, both characters use what they have. Juggernaut uses his momentum sapping shield and when hulk comes in for a punch he is completely stopped. This gives Juggernaut an option of landing a solid punch to his face

5. When a boxer is hit with a good punch he becomes dazed and that is when the other boxer realizes its time to go all out. The first boxer can only defend and cannot even realize what is happening and eventually gets Koed in that position. I have seen this happen many times and basically it could happen to the Hulk when Juggernauts shield allows him to land a solid punch that rocks the Hulk. He cannot do anything because he would be dazed.

6. POSSIBLE ways juggernaut can win- BFR(uses shield to stop hulk then has time to get a good grip on him and toss him), Early KO, Later Ko after increasing strength enough to beat hulk.

I repeat these are POSSIBLE ways. Even if it is unlikely that they can happen, it is still plausible giving Juggernaut a slim majority.

FWIW: I read in another thread that in the letter pages of TIH#461 it was said that its still undecided who's stronger between Hulk and Juggernaut. This is 37 issues, 3+ years, after #424. This still sounds like dynamic strength to me if it is in contest.

Who was the dominant Hulk at this point in time?

hulk doesn't die of exaustion, hulk dies of malnutrition while juggernaut feeds off the cytorak power.

Originally posted by outarddwarf
hulk doesn't die of exaustion, hulk dies of malnutrition while juggernaut feeds off the cytorak power.

I've seen enough panels of Hulk with a milk mustache to leads me to believe that he takes care of himself.

Its also a well known fact that the Dairy Association so hates to lose a spokesmodel, especially to brittle bones after months and months of continuous battle with no respite, so however long the fight lasts they already have a contract with Damage Control to ship the occassional 'Big Greenie' 3 gallon milk carton on-site.

Juggernaut ftw.

My my how this thread amazes me. either characetr can be written to win. Hulk is the ultimate powerhouse created by marvel. That is what he was created to be. Now i know that there is the limitless thing with cyttorak, ( who himself is not limitless in power) but when it comes to strength hulk is stronger. Juggie has this unstoppable, invincable thing, yet its not known whether hulk could get powerful enough to overpower him. ( this is why i like the ultimates which seems a more ordered world with regards to marvel characters). Remember hulk was the only one able to shatter onslaoughts armour ( juggie being way unable to do this)
hulk is the favourite of any power brawls as thats what he was created to be.maybe juggie could out run him? i thank you

One important thing. Juggernaut can't be hurt, Hulk can.

Juggie can be hurt by a being who can get powerful enough to do it. ie hulk

Originally posted by GUYWHOSTOUGH
Juggie can be hurt by a being who can get powerful enough to do it. ie hulk

Can you do KMC a favor and let this battle die!?

Originally posted by GUYWHOSTOUGH
Juggie can be hurt by a being who can get powerful enough to do it. ie hulk

Um... no he can't be hurt at all. All Thors attacks were useless, why should Hulk's punches work? And Hulk is not stronger.❌

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Can you do KMC a favor and let this battle die!?

Unfortunatly it is not possible, it's like Spider vs Wolverine thread.

Originally posted by GUYWHOSTOUGH
My my how this thread amazes me. either characetr can be written to win. Hulk is the ultimate powerhouse created by marvel. That is what he was created to be. Now i know that there is the limitless thing with cyttorak, ( who himself is not limitless in power) but when it comes to strength hulk is stronger. Juggie has this unstoppable, invincable thing, yet its not known whether hulk could get powerful enough to overpower him. ( this is why i like the ultimates which seems a more ordered world with regards to marvel characters). Remember hulk was the only one able to shatter onslaoughts armour ( juggie being way unable to do this)
hulk is the favourite of any power brawls as thats what he was created to be.maybe juggie could out run him? i thank you

You just don't quit, do you? I don't think I've ever seen you post in any thread other than this one since you've started.

Originally posted by lft4ded
FWIW: I read in another thread that in the letter pages of TIH#461 it was said that its still undecided who's stronger between Hulk and Juggernaut. This is 37 issues, 3+ years, after #424. This still sounds like dynamic strength to me if it is in contest.

Who was the dominant Hulk at this point in time?


It was post HR Hulk, I believe. The one that actually did have a pocket dimension that was making him stronger.
Originally posted by outarddwarf
hulk doesn't die of exaustion, hulk dies of malnutrition while juggernaut feeds off the cytorak power.

No, he can eat at his own body and regrow the parts he lost. Gamma radiation seems to have a knack for absorbing matter around it, as it did with Half-Life and the Leader.
Originally posted by Sam Z
One important thing. Juggernaut can't be hurt, Hulk can.

True. However, that won’t be the deciding factor here.
Originally posted by GUYWHOSTOUGH
Juggie can be hurt by a being who can get powerful enough to do it. ie hulk


Originally posted by Apolloknight
Can you do KMC a favor and let this battle die!?

Why would we do that? ermm
Originally posted by Sam Z
Um... no he can't be hurt at all. All Thors attacks were useless, why should Hulk's punches work? And Hulk is not stronger.❌

Hulk is stronger. However, Juggernaut’s durability pretty much makes that useless.

Originally posted by Accel
Hulk is stronger.

That's still debatable. 😬

I'm SO gonna stay out of this, from now on 😂

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's still debatable. 😬

It's just how I see it, going by their relative feats.

In terms of strength, Hulk > Juggernaut.
In terms of durability, Juggernaut > Hulk.