Juggernaut or The Hulk?

he he..... so that means i know nothing on the subject huh??? thats why all your aurguments should be -nullified- cause you rule something out for no reason at all.

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
lol, i discussed this for about 20 of the 58 pages, so i'm pretty much burnt out on the subject. pretty interesting debate if you wanna go back and look through it all. hope you got that much extra time, cause i dont.

Hell no I don't have all that extra time. I'm a busy man. I have to.....well.....screw it, I just don't want to.

I think the more interesting question is who would win if Eric Bana playing Hulk fought Brad Pitt playing Juggernaut? lol

I vote that Brock Lesnar plays Cain Marko in the next movie.😉

And why is JugFan's argument simply nullified Evangel? Just cause Juggernaut's in his name, you gotta come up with a better reason than that. He's done his share of explaining why Juggernaut would win in his opinion. At least he's not doing the fanbot thing and saying "Juggernaut wins because he's Juggernaut and all that mess. He even admitted it could go either way. To say his argument's nulified because of his name, then you gotta nullify every other argument involving characters and people on here with the same name. Like I said, gotta come up with a much better reason than that.

They'd probably have to CGI him if they want him to be the freight train of a man-wall that he is.

Yeah, that's probably what they'll end up doing. And, like I said before, they may go the way of Ultimate and call him a mutant, like they did Deathstrike.

When they had Lady Deathstrike be a mutant in X2.. I was disappointed. Everyone knows she's not a mutant. I mean.. if she was a mutant who had adamantium bonded to her bones.. then why was it also on her fingernails? What was her power? Healing and... growing her fingernails? That's silly.

If they have Juggernaut be a mutant in X3, fine. If that's the only way to get him into the movie. I just hope they don't power him down any for it, because if they do.. it'll just be so Wolverine can stab him... like that guy needs any more time in the spotlight. I'm starting to wonder if they won't just title it X3: Wolverine and his Amazing Friends.

I thought she was a cyborg in the movie. I don't really remember since I was laughing at her sweating adamantium and remembering how many people Wolverine killed in the begining. It's the age of "media spawns violence" and Wolverine kills a dozen troops in a minute and a half?!

Anyways, it wouldn't be too hard to explain but it would have to bring magic into the picture so I wouldn't really blame them for making him a mutant. The WORST thing that could happen is they make him like Bane with a stupid head tube and a thermostat on his arm.

Either way, he would be used as a benchmark for Phoenix to show how strong it is. So is the life of Juggernaut.

Is Juggernaut actually slated for X3? I don't know how they would make that word without CGI. And yeah I hate the fact that they made Wolverine so centralized. Singer is starting to lose it. There were a couple parts in X2 where Iceman had a perfect opportunity to use his powers *the raging flood* and they have Wolverine come in--WTF??

good news is Singer ain't making X3...

Who is? Or have they decided?

they tryin to get whedon, but its not certain

I don't know if I like that idea. He has great potential, but he knows how to screw it up as good as anyone else too.

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
he he..... so that means i know nothing on the subject huh??? thats why all your aurguments should be -nullified- cause you rule something out for no reason at all.

No it doesn't mean that. It means since you have Juggernaut in your name you must like that character. It would lead to the fact that your a little biased and hot headed when it comes to defending Juggernaut. For example you took it to the extreme in the "juggernaut vs thor" thread.

Originally posted by Evangel94
No it doesn't mean that. It means since you have Juggernaut in your name you must like that character. It would lead to the fact that your a little biased and hot headed when it comes to defending Juggernaut. For example you took it to the extreme in the "juggernaut vs thor" thread.

well i'll admit when i think somebody can beat juggernaut, otherwise i stick to my guns. the only reason my name is juggernaut fan, is because when i was new to the forum i saw a thread "juggernaut vs. venom" or something like that. the thread had been saying something about venom beating up juggernaut, and that is obviously false. so i picked 1 of the 2 characters (juggernaut, cause he beat venom) and i set the record straight that Juggernaut defeated venom, and handily at that. so i just stuck with it. i do know what i'm talking about when it comes to comics and i can argue just as easily for juggernaut as anybody can for hulk/thor or any other character. that still doesnt mean my information is invalid.

and to boot, its obvious juggernaut is a villain, and he doesnt have an ongoing series. people are usually very un-informed when it comes to him. so i just try to atleast educate people on the subject if nothing else.

When did he defeat Venom? In the limited series, the 'battle' was crap. Neither one really beat the other, but Venom sure held his own against him more than he logically should have. Have they fought again?

they fought in venom the madness with confrontations in all 3 parts. venom didnt hold his own against juggernaut at all. he got pummeled nearly to death. and had he not merged with the living mercury brock would have died, but the symbiote would have lived on. so he took a much more severe beating than he logically could have. but didnt hold his own in any way.........

Yeah I'm going to have to re-read them then because from memory they barely fought. He barely fought any of the characters that appeared as his enemies in the limited series.

the first issue they fought, or...... venom got pummeled. then the next 2 issues venom is upgraded/juggernaut had feelings for venoms girlfriend after setting around and chatting with her (after he kidnapped her) then he split when venom came to rescue her because thats what she wanted....... them to stop fighting.