NEWSFLASH: World Trade Centre hit by 2 Aircraft

Started by Ushgarak21 pages

They've already fire-bombed a Mosque in Texas. The reprislas against innocents are already starting.

I can only say that the vast majority of Palestinians were NOT in favour of this and to judge them all based on that small sample is a huge mistake.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The other tragedy, of course, is that Bin Laden was armed and brough to power by the US for use against the Russians. There is a lesson to be learnt there as well.

There is a lot to learn from all of this.

Wasn't this one of those lovely CIA led brainshilds?

Yup. They have their prints on a lot of things, but to be fair they have had a lot of successes as well.

I guess, but I always hated there use of plausible deniability.

It's a murky old world.

And they'll be kicking themselves now, because they justify all they do in the name of protecting the US and this time it hasn't worked out. The job of handling terrorism is actually the FBI's, but the CIA are the people who are meant to pick up the early warnings about this sort of thing.

But no-one has a 100% success rate. There are theories now emerging that the threats issued a few days back, that led to the US issuing a threat warning to all their holdings ABROAD were decoys. Certainly if there was any prior warning to this one the CIA totally missed it.

The odd thing is, of course, that American foreign holdings are VASTLY more secure than their own country.

It was a VERY well planned operation all aroumd, from whoever did this, and in all honesty I really don't think it could have been stopped, and it will only be stopped in future either by destroying the source or a massive increase in home security; probably both.

I judge the Palestinians on many events they are such ******.
Real people and parents would keep their kids away from places there might be shooting at. Instead they put their children in the first line of a stone throwing mob, they sacrifising their children in an attempt to get the world oppinion against the Israelits. That to me is savage and I cant stand those people. It is kind of strange that none of the surrounding arab countries want the Palestinians in their countries.

I don't think that's really representitive of the typical Palestinian person, fint..

It is scary how some people are looking at Middle Eastern Muslims and wanting to blame them for this..it's just stupid....stupid stupid stupid.

Well I didn`t blame the palistinians for this attack Dim, the Palistinian thing came up after some palistinians cheered in the streets. And some of us commented our feelings to that.

I think we will find extreme fundamentalists from a variety of countries behind these attacks, but the common factor or link is Osama Bin Laden.

I know you weren't blaming them for the attack..I was talking about the comment about using their children...that's all.

Looking at the children we saw, in a clip that has been re-used so many times it is untrue, they were copying the parents.

None of them looked much older than 7 or 8, they had no real idea what they were cheering for, IMHO.

finti, you have to understand that there's bad people in all countries. a few palestines celebrated in the streets, yes. and yes, some palestines have done bad things before. but also, yes, a few israelians, a few englishmen, a few croates, a few americans, and a few norwegians have also done bad things.

you can't judge a country because of what some extremists have done. and that is also important to remember in this case; a terrorist group have done this, not a country.

There were schoolchildren in a British school near London that were also cheering when they heard the news. Extremely disturbing but demonstrative of why you cannot judge the whole by the few.

I guess there happy because America is this big country, and we boss the little countries around and we walk with our noses in the air and we show off our wealth and splendor to the world and never think that something like this can happen to us, and then when it finally does, they cheer. 🙁

Some tragedy that was. I read about it on text tv during my vacation while wondering what the heckj was going on since the main channel was airing some kind of non scheduled background new programme on something. It seemed the world was on fire by reading the reports in one sentences: New york on fire, WTC collapsed, Pentagon hit by plane.

Some serious stuff.

But I have been wondering one thing. Everybody talks about striking back. But.... to whom? If these are indeed an internation group of terrorists, on the whole there's not much one can do about it. If 50 years of Israel tought us one thing: one cannot beat terrorists. Scary, yes very, but true I'm afraid..... Any thoughts anyone?

Even though they are few but the representatives of and the dream of ameicans ever think you boss others around. I have among my friends soldiers who were voulenteres into the forces of the Israerlites troops. Twy told me what it was like , they were UN soldiers and I take their words before anyother words

queeq, no-one has ever beaten terrorists before because no-one has ever been willing (or had the backing) to tear countries apart to do it.

This may be different.

I think we can rule out the Palistinians. Bin Lauden is the primary suspect, and the hijakers were mostly from Egypt and Saudi Arabia, who allegedaly were financed by Bin Lauden. It seems that most of the action is going to take place in Pakistan.

you can't judge a country because of what some extremists have done.

What country are we refering to her MAH?

The BBC is in the doghouse. In last night's edition of Question TIme (a long estbalished political programme in which various people of importance are asked questions by the audience) one of the panellists was Phil Lader, former US Ambassador to the UK.

His treatment was appalling. The grossly unrepresentative audience seemed to have been handpicked for its anti-Americanism. The mood seemed to be the the US had gotten what it deserved; Lader was slow-handclapped when he tried to point out how insensitive they were being (by the end he was in tears), and any attemptsd to voice American support were drowned out by this hostile audience.

The BBC (always a left-wing institution) has tried to make out this was a representative audience; nonsense. Just go into a London pub and see what opinions you get; let me give you one typical example from The Daily Telegraph's weekly round up of pub opinions:

"Castrate the bastards. Let them feel pain. let them bleed to death. The man who planned this is a pure animal. He hasn't a clue about suffering."

Possibly an extreme example there, but the point is the same. I wan to assure the US people on this board that most of Britain is behind them, as the recent service and flowers left outside the US embassy show, and no amount of silly audiences on ill-timed BBC programmes will change this.

Mind you, Ush. THe Israeli's HAVE been trying to eradicate all terrorism aimed at their country. And those efforts were not just within their own borders. They have been doing that for over 50 years and they STILL suffer from terrorism. Although the scale is absolutely incomparable, in a way crashing into the WTC is not so much different from setting off a nail-bomb in a pizza parlor full of innocent families. Even though 100 efforst can be prevented, we only see the one that slips through security.

Islam fundamentalism is extremely dangerous, especially when you strike back violently and at a larger group than just the perpetrators. Before you know it, those killed are considered martyrs of a holy cause and they will declare Holy War, Jihad. And then the shit hits the fan because everyone who joins to fight the Jihad feels they are doing it for Allah and getting killed provides instantaneous access to heaven. Such groups are pretty hard to best.