NEWSFLASH: World Trade Centre hit by 2 Aircraft

Well..... it is kinda thorough... 😈

What get me is the Hypocracy being shown by people on both sides.

Bin Laden, a MULTI-millionaire, attempts to destroy the American Capitalist Democracy, whilst at the same time making substancial trading on the Futures Market in stocks of the airlines he intended to use to carry out the act. Knowing full well that the companies stocks would fall dramtically he, or someone acting on his behalf, made massive trades on the 6th and 10th of September.

If you look at the volumes for those days they stand out like a sore thumb as they are 10 times a normal day, with the extra centred around just a few key stocks.

On the American side, it was the CIA who basically put Bin Laden in a position to make bring his organisation together when the wanted him to do their dirty work against the Russian" threat.

Not trying to be judgemental, but if we're gonna go to war let's at least look at our selves a little first...

Yes, let's look at ourselves first and THEN throw bombs. 😄

Throw bombs at them and they'll throw bombs back at you. It has to end somewhere.

queeq, I'm not condemning any future action, all I'm saying is that before that action is taken I feel that a little self re-evaluation is required.

Though, that wasn't the main point of my post.

The whole world has to change.

The whole world is going down the drain.

The whole world has suddenly woke up terrified and realised they have to do something.

I still can't believe that Russia, China and the US are all agreeing with each other. That can only be a good thing.

Not necessarily.

I've heard something new about the footage of the Palestinians.
I don't know if it is said here, but otherwhise:
the footage of the celabrating Palestinians is footage of 1990!!

Not only is Bin Lauden responsible for killing thousands of people, terrorizing the world, destroying icons of American financial strength, but now he's getting rich off it. He's the poster child for diabolical madmen everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!

Finti how is USA, China and Russia supporting each other not a good thing?

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer

To say they agree is a bit of an over-simplification. If Russia REALLY agreed they would let people use the Central Asian states to station forces which would make any campaign into Afghanistan MUCH easier.

The only reason to kill Bin Laden is revenge. His death will have virtually no effect on his organisation. These people have a cause, and once we are steaming in with invasion forces they ALL have a cause, and it will be the Russian situation all over again.

Well, at least Pakistan has done something decisive, and it looks like the first shots might be fired along that border.

queeq, I note you doidn;t seem to appreciate my posts that werre actually agreeing with your poijt about this being a difficult war... never mind.

In any case- all previous experiences be damned, America can win this if it has the means, the support and the will. The means it always had, the will it just got. The support it HAS, but... it;'s such a fickle thing. A years time, many of those countries currently pledging support will just be 'sympathetic', and the fear of the US throwing its military might around will return. And the US could be in a very difficult position.

I remember Reagan saying yhat the US would never give in after the suicide bombings at the Marine Barracks during his Presidency; he said the US would never give in and that terrorists cannot hide. He fired a few missiles at Libya- almost certainly hitting no-one responsbile- and a month later the troops were pulled out.

These things are always more easily said than done.

Well, Reagan was a very different president..

What I think is every shocking is that Bush said he wants Bin Laden dead or alive...most US presidents wouldn't have said that I think.

He's from Texas, were no nonsense, straight talkin, gun slingers down here! 😮‍💨

Well King Jedi, they support USA only because of own benefits.
By supporting USA Russia will escalate the Chechnyan conflict and the Chinese will tighten the grip on Burma. That's why it is a bad thing because it is not genuine support, but for own national gain.

Who cares if it's genuine support? We just want those terrorist to get hot lead up their asses!!!!

I don't think you can reference Reagan in any kind of fairness, the America he precided over was very different to the one now.

The whole world and politival climate was vastly different.

To say they agree is a bit of an over-simplification

Finti you could say that about any war. The Gulf wasn't about freeing the people of Kuwait. Britain and America got involved because of oil. Everyone looks after there National interests but if it stops this kind of terrorism then who cares?