"Either she places a child in a home in which he's in danger of being molested, or the alternative, she is encouraging a child to make false accusations," Halper said. "Either way, it makes her unfit"
Now how exactly is this denying that it happened? It merely states that in either case she is an unfit mother and shouldn't be the one to have custody of the boy.
Either she told the boy to make it up.......she's unfit
or she knew Jackson was the child molestor he is and still sent her boy to his home.....which makes her unfit
You people will make up anything you can to defend your perverted pedophile of a hero won't you.
Let me guess........you kids think Jackson has only had 2 plastic surgeries also don't you (what he said in the British doc. last year)........
me make up stuff?! ok what did i just make up?!!! i have never said anything false
oh please plastic surgery i dont give a shit....when did i ever say i think his only had 2 surgerys fool.....MJ was obviously pissed at that moment
he said 2?! you really think MJ is gona sit there and say how many surgerys his had, thats non of our business, he wanted Bashir to shutup about it
oh no........Michael Jackson is capable of lying? Ofcourse we already knew that though didn't we............perhaps he is lying about his pention for deflowering young boys aswell.
and yes you did lie.......flat out.......you said:
"ok the Boys father just denied the charges "
which is completely untrue......the boy's father said the mother was an unfit parent because either she encouraged the boy to lie....or the boy is telling the truth and the mom should not have put him in the position to be alone with Jackson to be molested. You lied flat out to facilitate your purpose............not one place has the father ever said that the boy was not telling the truth.
duh MJ was prob embaressed , r u stupid?!
also i got it off a article u gronk, u think i got it out of my ass or something.....
ur imply MJ is guilty when we havnt even got any evidence! if [media] they have evidence Where da fcuk is it then?!!!! they have been saying it for the last 10 years theres evidence but where is this so called evidence?!!!!!!!
and why wasnt it reported to the police? why did they go to a civil lawyer first? why did they go to the same lawyer who worked on the case 10 years ago
And wait and see what happens before you make dumb judgements.
Father Of Jackson's Accuser Denies Charges
Boy In Center Of Bitter Divorce, Custody Battle
POSTED: 7:45 a.m. PST November 21, 2003
UPDATED: 8:00 a.m. PST November 21, 2003
LOS ANGELES -- The attorney for the father of the 12-year-old boy in the center of the Michael Jackson controversy spoke to the media Thursday evening.
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More About Alleged Victim
H. Russell Halper told reporters that his client believes the boy's mother is unfit and does not believe that the pop superstar victimized his son.
"Either she places a child in a home in which he's in danger of being molested, or the alternative, she is encouraging a child to make false accusations," Halper said. "Either way, it makes her unfit."
The alleged victim was featured in a British documentary with Michael Jackson. It was aired earlier this year. The boy is a cancer patient who stayed at Jackson's Neverland Ranch on a few occasions and a child in the center of a bitter divorce and custody battle.
The boy's mother had nothing negative to say about Jackson when she told a British newspaper earlier this year that "at no time has (her son) ever been treated with anything other than love, respect and the deepest kindness by Michael."
yes yes im denial about MJ is guilty when not even a evidence has surfaced yet...
why Elvis wasn't arrested for pedophelia?! afterall, he went after Priscilla when she was only 13 years old
media values are completly upside down and that the intense media scrutiny will make a fair trial impossible. will see
if its really hard for u guys to understand this then im not gona force u to believe in anything, which i never have but just stated whats really going on but im done with you people.
Originally posted by o kiMMii o
yes yes im denial about MJ is guilty when not even a evidence has surfaced yet...why Elvis wasn't arrested for pedophelia?! afterall, he went after Priscilla when she was only 13 years old
media values are completly upside down and that the intense media scrutiny will make a fair trial impossible. will see
if its really hard for u guys to understand this then im not gona force u to believe in anything, which i never have but just stated whats really going on but im done with you people.
Actually waht's really going on is that it's possible that the man touched many little boys in the pants, seems to me you don't know what's going on if you can't simply accept that he MAY have done this.
Originally posted by Gravity KillsWell not funny, but not suprising. I get really defensive about Child Abuse and being an abused child myself. Someone HAS to stand up for the children...Who is doing that here??
Does anyone else think this is just funny. When I heard about it I could not stop laughing. What just me?
o k guyz just tell me 1 thing. and please please please look at what i have said coz u never do that!
in the press conference the media asked sheriff how long they have known about this. they said 2 months. the lady then asked why did u wait for two months and the sheriff said because of halloween. now u tell me, if the sheriff think that there is a child molestor and he is loose and is free, would they let him b loose for even 1 day? wouldnt they just arrest him right away. why did they wait eh? if they think michael jackson is that dangerous
me bais please tell me how?! cause im a fan of MJ, that doesnt make me bais because i told all the facts, that doesnt make sence.
you are the people stated Michael is guitly when nothing has said that he is. So tell me whys that?! your just speculating, But you dont say the facts. Why dont you wait and see for yourself what the real thing is. Michael loves children ..why?! because they wont judge him, most of the people around him maybe are just looking in for some cash, maybe this childhood has affected him, and yes it does seem like it. Michael has donated alot of money to charity but people over look these things..Why?! Media will never report nething good about Jackson.
I think that, along with the confidence and vigour of his exit from the police station demomstrates his intent to win both the case, if it ever gets to court, but more importatnly the publics opinion.
Also his lawyers made it public they were angry at him being cuffed.
The public thinks Michael is stupid bcuz this is happening again to him but really Michael is a very very smart man and he knows what he's doing
Abrams was just talking with a panel and he brought up the possibility of Jordy being called out of hiding to testify. This one black guy said that that could be a good thing for Mike. Meaning, if Mike in fact did not moleste Jordy, then Jordy could be forced to come to court and testify that Mike did not hurt him. Mike can kill two birds with one stone.
How much you wanna bet that the prosecution will never do this? Why? It may look like Mike was guilty because he settled, but what if he wasn't? It is a big chance they will be taking.
Now, as far as the defense goes, they have the upper hand. Why? Because Michael knows what is in those documents...he knows why it was settled....he knows he is innocent. He could give Geragos the ok to subpoena Jordy to court. But if they do, the prosecution is gonna fight it because they will say, "Mike must be innocent if they are calling on Jordy".
Why was Michael arrested? Why was he handcuffed? Does this mean they found evidence at Neverland? Why wasn't he arrested in 93 when he was accused? Well, folks I found the answer.
What is an arrest?
An arrest is when the police take a person into their custody to charge them with a criminal offence.
Not everyone charged with a criminal offence will be arrested. Depending on the circumstances:
The police can decide to tell the person that a charge will be laid and a summons to go to court will be given to the person later
Or, the police can give a person an appearance notice, a written notice of the charge that says when the person has to go to court
Or, the police can arrest the person and take him or her to the police station.
IN other words, they HAD A CHOICE. They could've given him an appearance notice like last time. But NO, Sneddon wanted a BIG SHOW. He had to bring in 70 cops, a forensics team, dogs, helicopters and an ambulance to raid Neverland like this was some high-profile MURDER case. Then, he had to top it off by issuing an ARREST WARRANT for Michael and bringing him in in HANDCUFFS. He had to parade him around for the media to see TO MAKE HIM LOOK GUILTY! The reason why he raided the place when Mike was gone was so that he could issue an ARREST WARRANT , to publicize it all over the DAMN WORLD! If he'd have done it when Mike was in Cali, no warrant would've been needed, cuz he would've been in their jurisdiction and they could've taken him in on the spot! In addition:
Criminal charges are laid when:
the police have talked to the Complainant/victim
there is enough evidence to show that a crime was committed
the police are able to determine who is responsible for the crime
the police have spoken to the Crown prosecutor
Seems to me all of the above except for the EVIDENCE part have been done. If they found evidence, why didn't they charge him when he was arrested? Cuz they DIDNT, just like they didnt LAST TIME.
The media has been going Jihad on MJ for decades now. The guy's one of the richest men on the planet, everyone wants some of that money, and I'll bet he gets 365 lawsuits a year that we never hear about. He must be able to pee lawsuits by now, so what makes this one so different?
But I'll tell you this for nothing. NOBODY can look me in the eye and tell me that Michael Jackson faces fresh allegations of child abuse in the same week that sales figures show his latest complilation album and DVD is headed straight for the number one spot, and then tell me it's a remarkable coincidence. Even the Marx Brothers didn't have that level of timing. Jacko didn't even WANT to release this album. He's had a falling out with Sony, and was obligated to release one more album before he can terminate his contract.
So, right when he's finished with Sony, on the WEEK that the album comes out, out comes fresh allegations and everyone saying his career is definately over and that he may even face jail.
This smells fishy. Nope, scratch that, it absolutely stinks like a public toilet.
And as for parents who want one of the richest men in the world to write them a cheque for an out of court settlement, well, I got one thing to say to that:
I don't think the man who sexually molests an innocent child is anywhere even near as evil or sick as the parents who literally pimp their child to him for money.
It's amazing how many people have already decided he's guilty, without a single shred of evidence. The strongest case for the prosectution I've heard so far has been "Well, he LOOKS guilty." Oh well done, way to go, Holmes, you've cracked the case wide open! Jeez, we really could have used your skills in the OJ trial, you'd have showed that jury the error of their ways, huh? Check out Matlock over here.
Why did everybody suddenly forget that in the justice system a man is innocent until proven guilty? Nobody is using the word "alleged" in the media, and because the man has not been convicted of a crime, referring to him without using the word "alleged" is very, very, VERY ****ing ILLEGAL.
Speaking of convictions, funny how everyone's fogotten R Kelly's one lately. R Kelly is a good example. He was tried, convicted and sentenced in a court of law, was found guilty of having sex with a 14 year old girl, and not only that, but the sick **** videotaped it. You know who R Kelly is, because despite being a convicted pedophile, he scored a number one hit with a song called "Ignition" a few months ago. Everyone in the clubs was dancing to it and making out to it.
Here's some of the lyrics:
"No im not tryin to be rude/But hey pretty girl im feelin you/That's why im all up in yo grill/Tryina get you to a hotel/Now its like murder she wrote/Once i get you out them clothes/No more hopin' and wishin/I'm bout to take my key and/Stick it in the ignition"
It's a song about sex. A song about sex, written by a convicted PEDOPHILE. People talk about how Michael Jackson's career is now well and truly over. Well, videotaping himself having sex with an underage girl obviously didn't hurt R Kelly's career any, because he's out, free, oh, and scoring number one hits.
But because the media haven't been persecuting him for years, and because he's popular with idiots in nightclub, somehow it's OKAY for R Kelly to have been convicted and still have a career, but not for Michael Jackson to after allegations without a shred of evidence.
Now Please explain why you think Mr Jackson is guilty?! How can you think Michael is guilty when no evidence whats so ever has surfaced, even the last 10 years the press says they have evidence but wheres these so called evidence?!!!
Michael is gona go to court, Quote 'Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. The truth will win this marathon in court.' - Michael Jackson...21/11/2003
At the end of the day it's about evidence
Where's the evidence?
Until I see evidence I am not going to be convinced
I'm not gonna be brainwashed.
umm if she REALLY thought that he was molesting her son, she would have gone to the police first. Not a damn lawyer.
Two lawyers turned down the case before, this is the man laywer from 1993 Chandlers case that turned it down, i wonder why?! he said he didnt believe what the lady was saying and thier was no evidence which this occured.
Prosecutors said they plan to charge him with multiple counts of child molestation, though they would not be more specific, That's cause they don't have enough evidence and were hoping someone else would come forward, IF they had enough evidence they would have charged michael on thrusday when he was arrested DUH!
ok see this...
1. Allegations and a police raid occur on the same day as MJ's greatest hits album is released. Even though Tom Sneddon says the raid was planned for several weeks ago, what are the mathematical chances that the raid and the release of a new album by Michael would occur on the same day, considering how often Michael releases an album, and statistically how often Neverland is searched or charges are brought against Michael?
2. Diane Dimond, a reporter, and CourtTV,the network she works for, seem to know things before everyone else does. Now, at first I suspected this was because that network specializes in coverage of the American court system, but networks such as CNN, FOX, and MSNBC are much larger organizations, and I would assume they have just as much ability, if not more, to get scoops as the mucher smaller CourtTV network does. This is extremely odd.
3. Tom Sneddon has a history with Michael. Michael even wrote the song "D.S." about Sneddon, obviously meaning that Michael has strong feelings towards Sneddon (How often does Michael write songs about people who make him mad? He was obviously very upset with Sneddon at the time). If anyone watched the press conference from Santa Barbara County, you will agree with me that Mr. Sneddon was EXTREMELY UNPROFESSIONAL towards the whole matter. He caused several eruptions of laughter, and was very snide and egotistical in his responses. Mr. Sneddon made a remark about Michael's music. When asked if there have been supressions of other people, Sneddon said he believes so. District Attorneys should not be speculating like this. Finally, Mr. Sneddon stated at the conference that he would not be giving interviews to news outlets, yet several hours later, CourtTV, the same network Diane Dimond works for, gets an EXCLUSIVE interview with Tom Sneddon regarding the investigation. Highly suspicious.
4. If this is Gavin making these claims, or people somehow connected to Gavin making these claims, then it's highly suspicious, considering that Gavin was a big part of Martin Bashir's documentary. I'm sure someone realized this and felt they could extort money from Michael by using Gavin.
Whether or not this is Gavin, it is laughable in my opinion that Michael J. Jackson would EVER use wine and pills to do this to a child. Even with Michael's sometimes odd behavior, I have NEVER witnessed any indication in the times I have seen Michael in the media that demonstrates a deranged, psychotic side of him that would even remotely suggest that he could do this to a child.
5. Under California law, Michael would be guilty only if he touched this child in any way with the INTENT to provide pleasure to either himself or the child. It is possible that this child told his therapist in a completely innocent way that Michael may have touched, for example, his buttocks, when in reality perhaps it happened while Michael was hugging this child, and it was completely accidental, and this therapist blew it out of proportion, knowing what could potentially happen, and having ill intent towards Michael, and the circus we have now began.
looks like a shake down.
why wasnt it reported to the police? why did they go to a civil lawyer first? why did they go to the same lawyer who worked on the case 10 years ago
During a news conference that will go down as one of the weirdest news conferences on record…D-A Thomas Sneddon, Jr. seemed almost jovial…and flippant…quipping at one point…that he and the Sheriff weren’t really into Jackson’s music.
And the D-A even got some laughs from reporters when he welcomed the media to Santa Barbara with the line….”I hope you all stay long and spend lots of money because we need your sales tax to support our office.”
Huh? This is the way a District Attorney announcing child molestation charges should behave?