Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So, The Unknown, you are saying that Voldemort couldn´t be killed if he was dropped in volcano, his head is ripped away from his body...etc.
And for Avada Kedavra, I dont think that would affect Gandalf because he isn´t human being...he is about 7000 years old you know...and he can control fire in defence and attack(what means that he could burn Voldemort in crisp by means of milliseconds before he could even think apparaitng away...). And I think that Gandalf The White can apparate as well. And he doesn´t need his staff to do his magic, it just helps him to control his powers and concetrating his powers in one place. Gandalf would rip Voldemort in pieces pretty quick. And dont say that I havent read Harry Potter, I have read them. Gandalf is much MUCH stronger then Voldermort. Admit the facts and live with them.
If Harry didn't do the killing, then his soul would probably be separated from his body like before, which, as sauron stated, wouldn't mean that he has lost. Even though Gandalf is stronger, this thread is about who would win. Neither can kill each other, live with it. 🙂
Originally posted by Trickster
Final Destination - evil DIDN'T win. Death was trying to correct a mistake. In final destination 2, 'good' wins, and one of the people is left alive from 1.Animal Farm - Do you think humans are evil~? or is communsim evil?
GoF - Harry didn't die, and since he is the main source of 'good'. Neither side won.
Terminator 3 - Self preservation. The machines weren't evil as such. They just ddid what they needed to survive.
1984 - I thought it was quite an efficent system. the whole point of that book is that good and evil merge anyway. There IS NO LINE!!!!! not everything was black and white.
-In FD, evil did win. Death killed 2/3 of the final survivors and the Clear had to admit herself to a mental institution.
-In AF, Communism takes over, evil wins.
- In GoF, Voldy killed Cedric and returned, Harry had to escape. Evil wins.
- T3, the machines are the villains, considered evil, so evil wins.
Ah well, not in my opinion. I think that Death was correcting nature's mistake. led to some funny seens. The second one was much more of a comedy.
I don't think communism is evil, it's just another form of government. Possiibly not as good though.
GoF, possibly a marginal victory although the force of good is not dead. More of a draw in my opinion
Terminator 3 We know what happens next and 'evil' DOESN't WIN!
Originally posted by Trickster
Ah well, not in my opinion. I think that Death was correcting nature's mistake. led to some funny seens. The second one was much more of a comedy.
I don't think communism is evil, it's just another form of government. Possiibly not as good though.
GoF, possibly a marginal victory although the force of good is not dead. More of a draw in my opinion
Terminator 3 We know what happens next and 'evil' DOESN't WIN!
In FD, death was killing people, making him the villain. Death won, meaning Evil won.
In AF, the pigs, who are the villains, take over the farm. Evil wins.
In T3, the machines launch Judgment Day, destroying like half the world. Even though they are defeated in the future, they still won in the movie. Evil wins.
Originally posted by sauron
general kaiden, morgoth is not a maiar, he was a vala
damn, fooled by my own smart assedness. lol. (spelt Valar by the way)
[QUOTE ]Originally posted by The Unknown
In FD, death was killing people, making him the villain. Death won, meaning Evil won.
In AF, the pigs, who are the villains, take over the farm. Evil wins.
In T3, the machines launch Judgment Day, destroying like half the world. Even though they are defeated in the future, they still won in the movie. Evil wins.[/QUOTE]
I have to disagree. Death, although mostly disliked by the community, in itself isn't evil. It is a natural course of life, and occurs to everyone (as explained by Gandalf in Return of the King)
The pigs aren't villians, they are the ones who oppose the pre established order, which is what we see the point of view from. (Communism, although a system that contradicts human nature at its core, isn't evil).
T3, It could possibly be said that the machines are evil. They also reflect, in exaggaration yes, the strange quirks of mankind. The machines didn't have what humans never put there, if you know what I mean.
Originally posted by General_Kaiden
damn, fooled by my own smart assedness. lol. (spelt Valar by the way)[QUOTE ]Originally posted by The Unknown
[B]In FD, death was killing people, making him the villain. Death won, meaning Evil won.
In AF, the pigs, who are the villains, take over the farm. Evil wins.
In T3, the machines launch Judgment Day, destroying like half the world. Even though they are defeated in the future, they still won in the movie. Evil wins.
I have to disagree. Death, although mostly disliked by the community, in itself isn't evil. It is a natural course of life, and occurs to everyone (as explained by Gandalf in Return of the King)
The pigs aren't villians, they are the ones who oppose the pre established order, which is what we see the point of view from. (Communism, although a system that contradicts human nature at its core, isn't evil).
T3, It could possibly be said that the machines are evil. They also reflect, in exaggaration yes, the strange quirks of mankind. The machines didn't have what humans never put there, if you know what I mean. [/B][/QUOTE]
IMO, the pigs are the villains. They trick all the other animals, lie, and deceive everyone.
And even though Death may not be evil, he's still the villain.