Batman Forever and Batman and Robin suck

Started by Gregory6 pages

Originally posted by Red Superfly

When I go to see a comic-book-movie I do not want what is essentially an acting out of the comic "manuscript". I welcome the adaptation.

I do. Want to see the comic put to film, I mean. I will never get what I want, but when the movie producers make pointless, and frankly, stupid changes (yes I know you like them; this is my opinion), it irritates me.

Was it me or did Two-face (Tommy Lee Jones) laugh way too goddamn much? He wasn't sinsiter to me at all....just wild.

I'm basing my image of Two-face on the way he's portrayed in Batman the Animated Series, where he's shown as a struggling soul who suffers from his duel-personality. And he can be evil and scary. I thought Tommy Lee Jones could've been the perfect Two-Face if he just didn't go overboard with the expressions.

Originally posted by SpyCspider
Was it me or did Two-face (Tommy Lee Jones) laugh way too goddamn much? He wasn't sinsiter to me at all....just wild.

It wasn't just you.

Originally posted by Gregory
Because it was wildy untrue to the source material? The Joker killing Bruce's parents? Batman killing people? Bleh.

Batman Returns was even worse. What the hell sort of drug were the writers using when they wrote Catwoman's origins? And the Penguin acted nothing like he does in the comic.

Well said Gregory.Hey looks like we agree on the first batman movie betraying the source material.Batman was a horrible adaptation,not at all a great one like Superman was.I also agree with you that Batman Returns was even worse.

Originally posted by Gregory
It wasn't just you.

yeah it wasnt just you,he acted too much like THE JOKER and not at like two face.Two face shouldn't have even been in this film.

Re: Batman Forever and Batman and Robin suck

Originally posted by Lord Soth
Who else thinx so? They just got really bad as soon as Michael Keaton and Tim Burton left

actually it was very bad from the beginning with the horrible casting choice of keaton as Batman and Tim Burton being allowed near a batman frachise.

I HATE MICHEAL KEATON!HE KILLED BATSY!

Re: Re: Batman Forever and Batman and Robin suck

Originally posted by Mr Parker
actually it was very bad from the beginning with the horrible casting choice of keaton as Batman and Tim Burton being allowed near a batman frachise.
Yes, well, I've noticed that you pick apart comic movies for the tiniest little reasons that really don't matter.

You don't think Batman killing people matters? Should I assume you haven't read the Knightfall story-line?

I know many of you probably think I'm being overly picky, but I look at it like this. There's a lot more to Batman than the spiffy outfit, and there's more to him than a vigilante motivated by the deaths of his parents. Nightwing is also motivated by the deaths of his parents, and durring Prodigial he wore the Mantel of the Bat, but he wasn't the Batman I know and love. The movie Batman is like that. He strikes me as closer to the Azbat than to Bruce Wayne. I didn't like the Azbat in the comics; why would I like him in a movie?

Originally posted by Gregory
You don't think Batman killing people matters? Should I assume you haven't read the Knightfall story-line?

I know many of you probably think I'm being overly picky, but I look at it like this. There's a lot more to Batman than the spiffy outfit, and there's more to him than a vigilante motivated by the deaths of his parents. Nightwing is also motivated by the deaths of his parents, and durring Prodigial he wore the Mantel of the Bat, but he wasn't the Batman I know and love. The movie Batman is like that. He strikes me as closer to the Azbat than to Bruce Wayne. I didn't like the Azbat in the comics; why would I like him in a movie?

Yeah Batman killing people isnt the batman that most people know and love from watching the 60's tv show or the cartoons.I wanted to see the batman I know and love,not this coward who goes around killing people.Thats what he WAS.A coward killing the jokers goons like he did sending in the batmobile when he wasnt even in the car dropping the bomb in front of them like he did.Batman would NEVER do such a cowardly act killing people in such cowardly fashion like that.Then killing his arch enemy The Joker at the end? that totally betrayed the batman mythos.Regardless of what the joker did in the past,that was murder he committed and he should have been wanted for murder at the end instead of being treated like a god damn hero,Batmans not authorized by the poilce to go out and kill people for christ sakes.All the batman movies were horrible in one way or another,they did not stay true to the source material unlike the first two superman movies did.

Well, The Joker was about to kill them both, I think that he would have done something, instead of 'being the hero' and just allowing himself to die.

I'm not sure. In Knightfall, he chews out Robin for attempting to save Batman's life by killing Two-Face.

Oh well, ya can't win'em all.

I liked Batman as a movie, as a flick. I know it betrayed the source material and all that, but I still enjoyed it.

I agree that technically speaking it was excellent. If I'd seen it before I was as familiar with the source material as I am now, I'd probably have loved it. I just don't think it worked as a Batman movie.

No it sure didnt,it was more like a James Bond movie than a Batman movie.I mean come on,call the movie something else if your not going to be loyal to the comicbook for god sakes!!!!!! 😠 😠

well i hate the batman movie the one with baldie-keaton as batsy.well don't get me wrong,it isn't his looks i'm the most annoyed about. it's everything else!!!!!!!!sure keston did act a lili bit like batsy but WHAT ABOUT THE IDIOTIC WOMAN WHO PLAYS THE GIRL?!she was ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!she made me laugh!!!!!!i bet when casted her they were all drunk or something

Well guys lets wait for the new moive to come out.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
No it sure didnt,it was more like a James Bond movie than a Batman movie.I mean come on,call the movie something else if your not going to be loyal to the comicbook for god sakes!!!!!! 😠 😠
Anbd how was it like a James Bond movie? I saw NO similarities.

And, you must know that when a comic book movie is made, they stay as loyal to it as humanly possible, while making a couple necessary changes so it makes more sense on the screen. Sacrifices are always made.

So they had to make Batman a murderer for it to make sense on the big screen? It wouldn't have made sense if the Joker hadn't killed Batman's parents? I don't buy that. But whatever; obviously, you're entitled to your own opinion on the movie.

Batman had to be a murderer for it make sense on the big screen and it would not have made sense if the joker hadnt killed batmans parents? thats the most laughable logic I have ever heard yet. 😆