Padme has to die in Ep3!!!!!

Started by King Jedi7 pages

I think it's abuit mean to think it can't be a tragedy unless a major character dies!

That's not what we're saying. Everyone pretty much knows what's going to happen in Ep3. And from what we do know, I can't see how it's tragic. And Lucas keeps saying Ep3 is "very very dark".
For me it would only be very very dark if Padme died. What's more dramatic -

Padme gives birth then leaves for Alderaan where she is going to hide.
OR
Padme gives birth and then dies a tragic death.

Plus in AOTC one of the main parts of the plot is Anakin protecting Padme and keeping her alive.
How ironic would that be if he does that but then in Ep3 he turns to the Dark Side which leads to her death?

About the timing thing - I don't beleive what TFN said about Leia and Luke being born at the end. Do you really think Lucas will have the main female character pregnant thoughout the whole film?
If Padme is pregnant at the start of EP3 then she can't really do anything. You won't see her running around a ship fighting bad guys. I think by the start of Episode3 the twins will already be born.

Originally posted by King Jedi

For me it would only be very very dark if Padme died.

you keep saying that you won't feel sorry for anakin. I think most people will. we like anakin at the start of AOTC then after a while we see that he becomes strange. I will think that's sad, and it will be more and more sad and then ends tragically with him joining the dark side.
allthough he starts being not very nice and being arrogant in AOTC it will be sad to see the young and playful anakin turning worse as the two films go on, and we'll feel sorry for him and his friends.

KJ, the timing thing is nothing to do with anything TFN posted. The timing thing is that Leia remembers her mother, which almost certainly puts her death after Ep. III.

Meanwhile, I think it is at least as dramatic as her dying if she is seen to flee to Alderan a broken and shattered woman. I WILL feel sorry for Anakin, I am very sure of it. The broken friendship between Obi-Wan and Anakin and the broken love between Anakin and Amidala will be VERY tragic indeed.

As far as I am conerned, she does NOT have to die for the tragic part of the story to work.

I agree. Someone left behind heartbroken is more tragic than someone who dies. Who would mourn her then that we could feel sympathy for?

Besides, the kids cannot be born by the beginning of EPIII. We still need to see how Anakin finally falls for the dark side. If the twins are born, Anakin MUST somehow know about it. I'm sure they're still together in EpIII if they marry at the end of AOTC. So if the twins are born by the time EPIII starts, Anakin knows. And from the OT we know he doesn't know he has children.
"The Emperor knew, as I did, that if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him."

Leia doesn't necessarily have to be 4; she could be younger maybe even 1-2 yrs old....remember the force runs strong in the skywalker family.

and she's perhaps not like us, I mean she's someone from Naboo not earth, perhaps she remembers earlier?

Those presented as human should be treated as such unless it is said otherwise.

But in any case, even one or two years pretty much rules it out.

1. Never except anything as the truth less it has come directly out of Lucasfilm's or George Lucas's mouth.
2. Even when Lucasfilm does issue a statement, nothing is solidified until the movie is in the theaters.
3. Leia is force-sensitive and could possibly be able to remember farther back than normal humans. I can actually remember some images from when I was a baby, so who knows how far she can remember.

It is entirely possible for Padme to die in the movies. If she didn't there would be a humungous loose end regarding her end.

Look, I know canon rules perfectly well, thankyou very much!

It is still HIGHLY likely that Padme dies after ep. iii. Almost certain, in fact. It's stretching it a bit for Leia to remember imagaes of her mother mere weeks- at most- old.

Well, maybe GL will not tie up any loose ends at all. Then we will all say, "What the hell was that?" Then we can all throw our SW movies away ans say, "Ahhh, screw it!" 🙄

😂 😂 Funny, funny.

I ,for one, beleive that Lucas will show the demise of Padme, and the fall of the Jedi. Why else would he have made the prequel movies (other than to make money, of course).

Lucas said the the prequel trillogy would be very dark. He couldn't possibly keep his fans if he had an ambiguas ending in Episode III.

He wouldn't keep us second guessing like that. And if he does, he WILL make VII- IX.

The Jedi will die. Padme will die. And we're gonna see it. If we don't, prepare for three more films.

Well, To, the basic set-up is still that we don;t see her die and there will NOT be three more films. And the 'ending' won't be ambiguous with the closing half of the trilogy filling the gaps.

wow To, I disagree with everything you say in your last post.
🙄

1: the prequel can be tragic without padmes death

2: logical thinking says that padme can't die in the prequels

3: George Lucas won't make 3 more episodes.

Whose to say we need to follow logic in "A galaxy far far away"????

Suspension of disbelief only goes so far. There are certain things we can safely assume.

I see.

The time factor is a big prob., but you have to admit that Padme's death would be quite a way to end a movie.

Oh, I have no objection to it whatsoever. I am sure it could be exceedinly poignant, and in many ways I would like to see it. I do not in any way think it is a bad idea.

Just:

1. I think it CAN be made just as poignant without her dying;
2. There are logical problems with her dying.

It might be nice also if she doesn't die because then their could be more books about her. If her death was covered EU, that blasted time factor would dissappear.

True. Butr then they might have to put some drama in what is supposed to be an undramatic death.

I mean, if the logical circumstances change at any point between now and 2005 I will happily accept 'Padme dies' theories.

Why do u say her death's supposed to be "undramatic?"