Padme has to die in Ep3!!!!!

Started by bigsef27 pages

logic mostly. shes not mentioned at all in the OT really. so evidently she dies sometime. its fairly certain she remains on alderaan after EPIII. if she doesnt die in alderaan it IS a lose thread, albiet a minor one. lucas doesnt like loose threads. star wars is an epic after all

Timing Problems - Leia said that she just remembers "feelings mostly". That's hardly remembering Padme. She says that she was beautifull but sad. When she said "She died when I was very young", that's probably because she was told that by her adoptive parents. It doesn't mean that she remembers her dying.

So Leia could have been younger than four. Jedi are discovered and taken away when they are babies. Force Sensitive kids ARE different from normal ones. It's not hard to beleive that Leia could remember "feelings".

Padme On Alderaan - This makes absolutley NO sense. We know that Bail Organa and Alderaan are involved in the Clone Wars. We know from the official site that Organa has meetings with Palpatine in AOTC.
This means that Palpatine knows all about Bail Organa and Alderaan. Why then would Obi-Wan hide Padme on Aldearaan?

In AOTC Padme is being hunted. The bad guys want her dead. When Anakin turns don't you think the Emperor would try and find her and kill her as well?

Hiding a baby on Alderaan is one thing but hiding Padme makes no sense. It's not as if Palpatine doesn't know her.

Obi-Wan hides on a small desert planet. Yoda hides on a small jungle planet. Why would they hide Padme on one of the most well known planets in the Galaxy? Even if by the end of Ep3 she is dying it still doesn't make much sense.

If at the end of EP3 Padme is dying then surely she would go somewhere with her family that we are going to meet in AOTC.

luke is trained as a jedi, and stronger in the force than leia. but luke doesnt remember his mother. leia does. so, we know that leia must spend signifigantly more time with padme than luke. i'm not saying 4 years, but just signifigantly more.

why would leia stay with padme longer? luke probably has a higher midiclorian count. leia does not have the ability to face her father in the future and prove victorious. so padme allows obiwan to take luke with him to tatooine. there's no real reason at that time to separate leia from padme. as vader gains power and commits worse and worse attrocities, padme probably hands over leia to bail organa. he still has a great deal of power in the senate and she hopes one day her daughter can form a rebellion. this would not surprise me. lucas takes alot of star wars from the worlds religions and mythology. this is the same sort of thing moses' mother did, sending him away to the daugher of pharoah.

as to why padme would stay on alderaan, why not? naboo is likely destroyed or laid to waste in EP III. its highly likely the emperor DOES kill padme. or atleast thinks he does. one of her handmaidens probably dies for her. anakin will know shes still alive, but anakin knows alot of things the emperor doesnt.

thats a theme in the movies also. padme knows she has a son and a daughter, but hides the daughter from anakin. anakin knows he has a son, but hides that fact from the emperor. thats why leia is safe on alderaan, and luke is safe on tatooine. i mean, tatooine would be the most obvious place to hide luke, but the emperor doesnt know about anakins children, so he doesnt look. he also doesnt know padmes alive, which is why shes safe on alderaan.

Does Padme even know about midichlorians?...Ah so many secrets...I don't think I'm gonna jump up and volunteer to be one of Padme's handmaidens:-)

I still don't think that Padme would stick around on Alderaan. If she's still being hunted why would she stay close to one of her most treasured posessions?

think about it this way. you and i live on one planet, but more likely than not, were close. i know your first name, but i could never ever ever find you on this planet. just because theres 100000s of planets in the star wars universe, doesnt mean if you THINK someone might be on a certain planet, under a different name, that you would have a good chance of finding them. planets are BIG.

I still don't think that Padme would stick around on Alderaan. If she's still being hunted why would she stay close to one of her most treasured posessions?

That's what I was thinking as well. She obviously gives the kids away to protect them. Why then would she live close to one of them knowing that she'd wanted dead?

if you lived in africa, would i be close to you? no.

But we're talking SW dimensions here.
THere is no evidence whatsoever, not even a rumour where Padme spends her last days. I too wonder if that'd be on Alderaan. It's fairly simple, the twins are a menace for Palpy so they hide them. They are separated and both go to the nearest people close to them that they can trust: Luke goes to Owen Lars, who has a problem with Anakin no doubt, under sort of a supervision by OB1 and Leia goes to Bail Organa, probably a close colleague and one of the founders of the rebellion. So, nicely split up. Leia gets reared as a daughter (hence the Princess) and Luke as a foster-nephew. The cover-ups are complete.
But, where does Padme die? Who knows... I agree though that Leia stays with Padme significantly longer. As to the reason, I have no idea.

Good point, but if I was Padme I'd be worried about drawing any kinda fire any where near a planet my own daughter was on.

Bigsefs' point about Luke not being able to remember his mothjer is a perceptive one; logically, this MUST mean that Leia spends significantly longer with Padme, who by extension almost certainly goes to- and dies on- Alderan.

Er, or maybe not. Clearly things are still all over the place on this one.

However, I feel I must point oput that Lucasfilm have pretty much shot down the idea that Naboo will be in any way destroyed.

That's good to hear.

I havent heard anything from Lucasfilm sprcifically discrediting that rumor. There really isnt any reason its relevant to the OT. My thoughts on something bad happen to it come from the novelization of TPM where anakin sees himself and padme in some great struggle, with LOTS of troops on boths sides. if he did lay waste to it, it would bring a great sense of deja vu in ANH when he does nothing and lets tarkin destroy his daughters home. it would provide some continuity b/w Episodes III and IV. but thats it, really. if Lucasfilm denies it, im inclined to agree.

The Jedi Council at SW.com has a question about Naboo's fate, ythe asnwer to which says that Naboo was simply not important by the time of the OT. So it was clearly not destroyed or trashed in any way.

More simply a society in decline then?....it's kind of too bad that we don't ever learn if Leia knows anything of Naboo.

is this correct? I remember the ghost-discussion, but we couldn't use things they said from the website, so why now?

Maybe they've added Naboo to the end ROTJ celebration?

Yerss, it is simply not credible for the JC to answer that question so directly and be wrong.

I love the theory that Naboo gets sort of destroyed and that it becomes Dagobah, however unlikely.

I wonder if Naboo is important at all in TPM. It's sort of in the centre of the story, but so is Tatooine and that's considered as backwater as well.

I think that Naboo is much more important than Tatooine in TPM. We spend over an hour there, and that's where the bulk of the action takes place. TPM is a much better movie, I've been told, if you just fast-forward through the Tatooine stuff. 🙂

yeah. i love the dvd for that reason. whenever the podrace scene comes on, i just press skip. :-)

the movie would have been 100 times better if they took the 15-20 minutes the whole ordeal takes up, and added 15-20 minutes of plot and character development. more time b/w qui-gon and obi-wan developing the master/apprentice relationship. and more time b/w anakin and padme. they also could have saved a few million dollars. the podrace scene was EXPENSIVE