Deicide, Fear Factory, Sepultura, Soulfly, Lamb of God, Exhorder, Ministry, Rob Zombie, Napalm Death, Pantera, Down, Static-X, Life of Agony, Blood for Blood, Sevendust, Hatebreed, Clutch, Machinehead, Slipknot, Obituary, Morbid Angel, Cannibal Corpse, Prong, Entombed, Biohazard, Danzig, Rollins Band, Damageplan, Anthrax, Type O Negative, ..............are all great examples of what good metal music is, and that is doesnt suck.
i find it funny that there are 26 votes saying metal is shit yet only one comment about it
its the same as any genre in the sense that there are people who like the more commercial metal (youe linkin park and what not) and those who listen to less commercial stuff and who attack the commercial stuff with more vitriolic hatred than people who dont like metal at all
you see the same thing happening in the rap forum...the commercialised rappers are slated while the underground artists are heralded as being better
then if an artist jumps from relative obscurity to international fame they are a sell out...regardless if their music has changed or not
the fickle world of musicians and their "fans"
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not "bad". I don't particularly care to see people raping a band when they get big though.Nothing to do with the band, I just don't particularly like that part of it.
-AC
happens alot though...
i've never really thought that it could be a bands fault that they made it big particularly if their music style hasn't changed...but so called "purists" will still try and label them as sellouts
itd even more bizzare when the opposite happens
take metallica for example...their top 3 selling albums were the black album, and justice for all amd master of puppets...a total of 28 million albums sold...when they changed their style they were labelled as sell outs for citing oasis as an influence...since then their 4 albums only sold a total of 14 million copies...half the sales for more albums...
i personally never liked the change but as AC pointed out....they make the music they want to make..not the music their fans want to make...(trent reznor AC...remember...he's doing it for him...not for you)
Originally posted by Slay
So if the band get big,and people who also like pop music start listening to it,you'll stop listening to it? 馃槙Sounds shallow...
Where did I say I'll stop listening to it? You got that on your own didn't you?
Yes.
Jaden: I couldn't care less if Trent changed musical direction and it was shit. I'd just not like the album, not have a problem with him. It's the fact that he did actually and factually compromise himself for money.
He used all the excuses in the world, but anyone with a brainstem can tell they're BS. Especially seeing as he built up a specific, "I hate network" image, only to push his album on CD:UK because his most critically acclaimed album sold poorly.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Where did I say I'll stop listening to it? You got that on your own didn't you?Yes.
Jaden: I couldn't care less if Trent changed musical direction and it was shit. I'd just not like the album, not have a problem with him. It's the fact that he did actually and factually compromise himself for money.
He used all the excuses in the world, but anyone with a brainstem can tell they're BS. Especially seeing as he built up a specific, "I hate network" image, only to push his album on CD:UK because his most critically acclaimed album sold poorly.
-AC
you know more about than i do...but then only he knows his reasons for changing the music he makes...peoples listening taste change as they hear more and different stuff and this will have an effect on the music they make...
Originally posted by jaden101
happens alot though...i've never really thought that it could be a bands fault that they made it big particularly if their music style hasn't changed...but so called "purists" will still try and label them as sellouts
itd even more bizzare when the opposite happens
take metallica for example...their top 3 selling albums were the black album, and justice for all amd master of puppets...a total of 28 million albums sold...when they changed their style they were labelled as sell outs for citing oasis as an influence...since then their 4 albums only sold a total of 14 million copies...half the sales for more albums...
i personally never liked the change but as AC pointed out....they make the music they want to make..not the music their fans want to make...(trent reznor AC...remember...he's doing it for him...not for you)
I think what people meant with Metallica is that they got shit (not that I agree, just commenting). People throw the term sell-out about too freely.
Originally posted by jaden101
you know more about than i do...but then only he knows his reasons for changing the music he makes...peoples listening taste change as they hear more and different stuff and this will have an effect on the music they make...
Yeah that's fine with me. I don't care what direction he chooses to take his music in, I'd not have stopped supporting him for that, just voiced my dislike of the album.
It's the fact that he did what he did after.
-AC
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I think what people meant with Metallica is that they got shit (not that I agree, just commenting). People throw the term sell-out about too freely.
indeed
Yeah that's fine with me. I don't care what direction he chooses to take his music in, I'd not have stopped supporting him for that, just voiced my dislike of the album.It's the fact that he did what he did after.
guess the re-release of pretty hate machine backs up that point (again saying it was nothing to do with money)