Sirius will seriously, definitely be BACK!

Another clue on Sirius' possible return:

On Harry's first night at Grimmauld Place, the entire house sits down to dinner. In total, 13 of them eat together.

According to Trelawney in PoA -- "When 13 people dine together, the first one to rise is the first to die."

"Sirius started to rise from his chair." -- but he only half rose from his chair -- so could this mean that he is only half dead?

just one more (sad) note though -- the one to fully rise up from that table was... Ginny! to play with the cat!... but i suppose that this clue no longer applies to her since Sirius is indeed the first to rise -- even if he only "half-rose up" from his chair..

wow dats clever, i neva read dat deep. but half dead? like a ghost?

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ok if we beleive this 13 thing is right, we can presume that either Ron or Harry would die next? we know it can't be Harry; so we can guess Ron would die????

You're referring to that dinner at the Great Hall where Harry & Ron both got up "almost" at the same time -- in other HP sites, they theorize that Harry will die, but Ron will bring him back to life.. but this is a whole new discussion! 🙂

OMG you guyz! you are so carful readers...

deep inside i just hpoe sirius'll cpome back, but i'm afraid in which form he would...

hmm,...but i doubt it though.... jo didn't kill him, just to let him come back....
i think there will be a big suprise no one had think 'bout.. that's jo.... 😉

hey joy2dworld, thats a really good opinion, sumtimes i thought ginny wpuld have tzo die in the end....
that could be a fact. and sirius hald dead? thats a good fact!

Originally posted by Joy2dWorld
You're referring to that dinner at the Great Hall where Harry & Ron both got up "almost" at the same time -- in other HP sites, they theorize that Harry will die, but Ron will bring him back to life.. but this is a whole new discussion! 🙂

as Dumbledore said in GOF : ""no spell can reawaken the dead""
so i don't think that theory is right. ok if sirius is to come back as human obviously, maybe he didn't die at all???

Originally posted by Joy2dWorld
Another clue on Sirius' possible return:

On Harry's first night at Grimmauld Place, the entire house sits down to dinner. In total, 13 of them eat together.

According to Trelawney in PoA -- "When 13 people dine together, the first one to rise is the first to die."

"Sirius started to rise from his chair." -- but he only half rose from his chair -- so could this mean that he is only half dead?

just one more (sad) note though -- the one to fully rise up from that table was... Ginny! to play with the cat!... but i suppose that this clue no longer applies to her since Sirius is indeed the first to rise -- even if he only "half-rose up" from his chair..

my word, thats the most convincing one ive yet heard ! 😛 maybe there is hope for sirius...

All this stuff is so small....i'm just impressed that you noticed it! I still think he could be coming back, like i said earlier, we didn't see him destroyed, never had to come to grips w/ his dead body.....so i think there is still hope.

Originally posted by Binx
I read an essay that I thought was really good that dealt with this topic. Just keep in mind that it is a theory and be forewarned that it's on a shipping site, so look past that and just read the essay. I'm giving the direct link to the essay below:

http://harmony.portkey.org/theories/veilmystery.php

if sirius is coming back it has something to do with this( read the link)

thnx to Binx

good point binx...thanx for sharing! 😄

Thank you hhhhr & Binx for that link! I really like these theories a lot.

That now points to one of the clues that JK just recently revealed & is being discussed in a separate thread here-- the small & insignificant thing in CoS that will play a big part in book 6! But could this be it? Nick's Death Day party?

My only question is-- how come this whole scene was not included in the CoS movie? JK says that if a scene contains a foreshadowing element of a later book, she would insist on its inclusion in the movie version.

not to mention that the quote on which this theory was formed, came from Steve Kloves - who wrote the script of the CoS movie!

“There's one thing in Chamber, actually, that Jo indicated will play later in the series.”
-- Steve Kloves, Chamber of Secrets DVD Interview

ok why the circular room in the DOM had candles burning blue and everything was black?

remember in the first chapter of the 4th book rowling talks about the riddle family and their son Tom? but this tom is not voldy is it ? so if they had a grownup son there might be another riddle somewhere????

erm me and rach asked that sumwhere, hhhhr...
when the Tom Riddles wife died when Tom Marvorlo Riddle was born, he returned to his parents.

Originally posted by hhhhr
as Dumbledore said in GOF : ""no spell can reawaken the dead""
so i don't think that theory is right. ok if sirius is to come back as human obviously, maybe he didn't die at all???

he did die, i am so sure that he did.
BUT...
...no spell can reweaken death, that really right, BUT
MAYBE (it was a thought came to me in a boring history lesson 😉)
sirius is only half dead cuz he stood up only half and MAYBE, harry could hear cerdrics voice thorugh the veil, maybe SIRIUS as a half dead could answer? or harry could throw the other mirror through the veil....

OMG binx thats one the site sounds that logically.... that COULD be, it's weird....

BUT (i know thats actually maybe spamn😆)
why did they leave it out of the films?

Originally posted by Joy2dWorld
Another clue on Sirius' possible return:

On Harry's first night at Grimmauld Place, the entire house sits down to dinner. In total, 13 of them eat together.

According to Trelawney in PoA -- "When 13 people dine together, the first one to rise is the first to die."

"Sirius started to rise from his chair." -- but he only half rose from his chair -- so could this mean that he is only half dead?

just one more (sad) note though -- the one to fully rise up from that table was... Ginny! to play with the cat!... but i suppose that this clue no longer applies to her since Sirius is indeed the first to rise -- even if he only "half-rose up" from his chair..

ack! no! that cant be true ❌ coz im reading OotP again and when i got to that scene, i noticed its NOT sirius whose first to rise! mrs weasley gets up to get the dessert. and ginny is on the floor playing with crookshanks BEFORE sirius half rises. 🙁
darn, i really liked that theory, too.

Originally posted by Candy
erm me and rach asked that sumwhere, hhhhr...
when the Tom Riddles wife died when Tom Marvorlo Riddle was born, he returned to his parents.