I can't bring up maga on gov. computers but I will have to re-read that Sasuke/A fight. i definitely remember A punching the beast guy in Sasuke's crew and had his back turned to Sasuke. he then turned around to to Sasuke using chidori on him.
Errr. Sage mode Naruto was able to not only dodge the third's fastest attack (at least I assume it's his fastest attack since it's the same move that A uses as his fastest attack), but then create a rasengan and push into the third's arm before the third could react. That to me was faster than anything Sasuke did in the A fight. Plus, in the Naruto/Pain feat, pain at least had to initiate the movement to punch Tsunade before naruto moved, unless Naruto is now a telepath, and knew beforehand that Pain was going to hit Tsunade. So regardless of when Naruto started moving, that feat was riduculously fast.
Originally posted by socool8520
I can't bring up maga on gov. computers but I will have to re-read that Sasuke/A fight. i definitely remember A punching the beast guy in Sasuke's crew and had his back turned to Sasuke. he then turned around to to Sasuke using chidori on him.Errr. Sage mode Naruto was able to not only dodge the third's fastest attack (at least I assume it's his fastest attack since it's the same move that A uses as his fastest attack), but then create a rasengan and push into the third's arm before the third could react. That to me was faster than anything Sasuke did in the A fight. Plus, in the Naruto/Pain feat, pain at least had to initiate the movement to punch Tsunade before naruto moved, unless Naruto is now a telepath, and knew beforehand that Pain was going to hit Tsunade. So regardless of when Naruto started moving, that feat was riduculously fast.
Yeah, AA told me what it was you were referring to. My mistake. I was referring to the Chidori Elbow clash.
It was the Third's strongest attack. He never created a Rasengan after dodging. He had the Rasengan created before he rushed at the Third. And like I said, not much different than what Sasuke did against A. Sasuke's was probably better.
Yes, it was fast, but we don't know when he started moving, and it looks like he was slightly closer to Tsunade than the Path was.
In addition he is shown realizing something just before the Path attacks. If you take into account his 'danger sense' that he used against the Third, he probably did realize that the Path was about to attack.
Originally posted by socool8520
To Sasuke's credit, Isn't there where he said he was impressed with his skill or something? but then Sasuke was all but hurt because the attack did nothing to A.
Just after Sasuke hit him with Chidori.
Nah, he wasn't butthurt. He also took Liger Bomb like a bawss, while the others shat themselves.
Originally posted by socool8520
Errr. Sage mode Naruto was able to not only dodge the third's fastest attack (at least I assume it's his fastest attack since it's the same move that A uses as his fastest attack), but then create a rasengan and push into the third's arm before the third could react. That to me was faster than anything Sasuke did in the A fight. Plus, in the Naruto/Pain feat, pain at least had to initiate the movement to punch Tsunade before naruto moved, unless Naruto is now a telepath, and knew beforehand that Pain was going to hit Tsunade. So regardless of when Naruto started moving, that feat was riduculously fast.
Neither A nor Raikage really have fast attacks. They just move really fast and whatever they happen to be using is only as fast as them. A doesn't know the 3rd Raikage's move. Also, Naruto created the Rasengan before dodging the attack, not after. And it's pretty obvious that 3rd Raikage is not as fast as A. Characters like Dodai are able to see through his attacks and move while characters like Jugo can barely block A.
And yeah, in Sage Mode Naruto is kind of telepathic. That was why he used it to beat the 3rd Raikage. The chakra sensing is more precise and it allowed him to time his attack just right. It's not a stretch to assume Naruto sensed the attack before intercepting Pain.
Edit: Don't be editing to make it look like you sniped me ****er. uhuh
Originally posted by socool8520It did:
Like I said, I have to get back to you on the Sasuke/A fight until after work. lol Cuz I don't want to mix up the manga with the anime fight, with the latter being more fresh in my mind. I could have sworn the chidori/elbow clash happened right after A turned around.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Actually A did at one point have his back towards Sasuke. Sasuke hit him with his sword and it bounced off of him. After that came the Chidori vs Elbow thing.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Neither A nor Raikage really have fast attacks. They just move really fast and whatever they happen to be using is only as fast as them. A doesn't know the 3rd Raikage's move. Also, Naruto created the Rasengan before dodging the attack, not after. And it's pretty obvious that 3rd Raikage is not as fast as A. Characters like Dodai are able to see through his attacks and move while characters like Jugo can barely block A.And yeah, in Sage Mode Naruto is kind of telepathic. That was why he used it to beat the 3rd Raikage. The chakra sensing is more precise and it allowed him to time his attack just right. It's not a stretch to assume Naruto sensed the attack before intercepting Pain.
Edit: Don't be editing to make it look like you sniped me ****er. uhuh
Everytime that A referred to his fastest attack, he was always rushing forward with his fingers pointed like the third. That is where the assumption that that is their fastest attack came from.
to the rubber guy's credit, Naruto commented on his speed. Naruto cn't sense people attacking before they attack. he can just sense them as soon as they are doing it. If he could read minds so to speak, he would be near unstoppable with his speed.
I don't know what sniping refers to in this instance and I don't edit people's quotes.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It did:
Then this makes the feat look worse on sasuke's part. He caught A while his back was turned. it was all A could do at the range sasuke was, mid attack, to try to throw an elbow. This is completely different than SM Naruto and the third going head to head at the beginning and Naruto landing a hit. Plus, didn't Sasuke get body slammed aand the only thing that stopped A from ending there was Susan'o? And then A was gonna do a leg drop and Gaara stopped it with his sand. Sasuke had a bunch of help in that fight I thought. A had to break handle suigetsu and then Jugo (forgot his name until someone used it a moment ago), and then sasuke.
Originally posted by socool8520
Everytime that A referred to his fastest attack, he was always rushing forward with his fingers pointed like the third. That is where the assumption that that is their fastest attack came from.to the rubber guy's credit, Naruto commented on his speed. Naruto cn't sense people attacking before they attack. he can just sense them as soon as they are doing it. If he could read minds so to speak, he would be near unstoppable with his speed.
Nope. A's attack is always just a punch.
Sure. But if the 3rd Raikage was as fast as A, Dodai would be the fastest shinobi alive. That and Raikage was tagged by Temari's wind. A dodged a point blank attack from Jugo and later dodged Amaterasu. A is faster.
He is shown to have the ability to sense danger and can tell using Frog Fu when his opponent will move. He is also shown to have incredible range with his sensing abilities. It is possible.
Originally posted by socool8520
Then this makes the feat look worse on sasuke's part. He caught A while his back was turned. it was all A could do at the range sasuke was, mid attack, to try to throw an elbow. This is completely different than SM Naruto and the third going head to head at the beginning and Naruto landing a hit. Plus, didn't Sasuke get body slammed aand the only thing that stopped A from ending there was Susan'o? And then A was gonna do a leg drop and Gaara stopped it with his sand. Sasuke had a bunch of help in that fight I thought. A had to break handle suigetsu and then Jugo (forgot his name until someone used it a moment ago), and then sasuke.
A fights like that normally. An Elbow is something I can see him doing all the time. Sasuke got body slammed after he dodged the attack and tagged Raikage. Susano'o is one of his abilities so I hardly call that help, particularly when Raikage's own men did far more than Jugo and Suigetsu. Gaara saved Sasuke but he also saved the Raikage from being crippled for life.
Originally posted by socool8520
Then this makes the feat look worse on sasuke's part. He caught A while his back was turned. it was all A could do at the range sasuke was, mid attack, to try to throw an elbow. This is completely different than SM Naruto and the third going head to head at the beginning and Naruto landing a hit. Plus, didn't Sasuke get body slammed aand the only thing that stopped A from ending there was Susan'o? And then A was gonna do a leg drop and Gaara stopped it with his sand. Sasuke had a bunch of help in that fight I thought. A had to break handle suigetsu and then Jugo (forgot his name until someone used it a moment ago), and then sasuke.
No, Sasuke attempted to attack A with his back turned, and Sasuke got repelled. They then rushed at each other, and Sasuke hit him with Chidori.
Yes, then Sasuke got powerbombed, but survived due to Susano'o. A then tried to hit him again, but Sasuke dodged it.
Gaara stopped A's Leg Drop, but he also stopped Sasuke's Enton: Kagutsuchi from tearing A a new one.
Not like A did not have any help in the form of Darui, and C.
And yes, A is faster than his father. At best, the Third is as fast as A is when he is using his shroud at its normal levels. The Third wasn't known for his speed, but his durability.
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I don't see how the third being as fast as A's base form makes Dodai the fastest ninja alive. naruto commented that the third was on par with A. He has seen both of their speeds so he should know. I'm not saying that the third is faster than A overall. Also the third wanted to be hit by Temari, he was one of the Kages who truly bothered by fighting the younger ninjas. He also told Temari's group what to do before kabuto took over.
He does fight like that normally, but this would have been difficult for anybody except Minato. Sasuke was already on him at this point. the only person I can remember dodging at that kind of range from a standstill is Minato due to FTG. The fact that A was able to turn around and put up any attack at all was a testament to his speed. Most people would have been dead.
Originally posted by socool8520
I don't see how the third being as fast as A's base form makes Dodai the fastest ninja alive. naruto commented that the third was on par with A. He has seen both of their speeds so he should know. I'm not saying that the third is faster than A overall. Also the third wanted to be hit by Temari, he was one of the Kages who truly bothered by fighting the younger ninjas. He also told Temari's group what to do before kabuto took over.He does fight like that normally, but this would have been difficult for anybody except Minato. Sasuke was already on him at this point. the only person I can remember dodging at that kind of range from a standstill is Minato due to FTG. The fact that A was able to turn around and put up any attack at all was a testament to his speed. Most people would have been dead.
Dodai not only reacted to the third, but managed to pull of two ninjutsu without him knowing. If the 3rd Raikage was as fast as A, that would make Dodai easily one of the top 5 fastest. And it doesn't matter because the Edo Tensei prevents him from taking a hit willingly.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v49/c462/16.html
That is the position they were in. Not a very hard one for him to attack Sasuke in.
Gov. computer won't let me look at your link sorry. Yeah, Dodai is fast. It seems to fit the overall theme of their village. Again, I only said the third was on par with A's base form, not faster.
Temari's attack was not nearly enough to hurt him, he pretty much knew he could tank it is what I gathered from that. However, he wasn't so sure about naruto's attacks and actively tried to dodge them.