The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
They needed to seal all of the other biju before they sealed Kurama, because it would throw the balance off on the statue if they sealed it anywhere but last. Meaning, all 8 had to be in place to counter-balance Kurama.

In order for the 8 to "balance" with only one...keyword is balance...that means they have to be equal.

Mix in the fact that Kurama, while running low on chakra, was able to counter the combined blast of 5 of the biju and it starts to make more since why it was stated that Kurama is balanced by the other 8 biju (while Kurama is only at half chakra).

And you think Akatsuki knew that Minato had sealed half of the Kyuubi's chakra within the Shinigami, and the other half within Naruto?

Originally posted by Astner
Naruto broke that seal, remember?

He broke Minato's Eight Trigrams Sealing Method, not Minato's Dead Demon Consuming Seal.

The Yin Half of the Kyuubi's chakra is still within the Shinigami. Short of the Kyuubi regenerating that lost half of its chakra during the 16 years it was within Naruto (which I see as plausible, as it was the same size as the other Bijuu when Naruto finally brought it out), it currently has half of its power.

Originally posted by Astner
Naruto broke that seal, remember?

The fourth sealed half its chakra inside the dead demon seal.

Maybe more than half considering the size difference. Though I do believe its talked about in another place and it says half.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The fourth sealed half its chakra inside the dead demon seal.

The same scroll Naruto used to break the seal to obtain the other half of Kyūbi.

Mangareader doesn't show for me.

Originally posted by Astner
No, he sealed it into a scroll.

The same scroll Naruto used to break the seal to obtain the other half of Kyūbi.

It's not the key to the Dead Demon Seal, but to the Eight Trigrams on Naruto.

Originally posted by Astner
No, he sealed it into a scroll.

The same scroll Naruto used to break the seal to obtain the other half of Kyūbi.

The very next page we can see the Death God pulling part of the Kyuubi into himself.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No.

It's not the key to the Dead Demon Seal, but to the Eight Trigrams on Naruto.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The very next page we can see the Death God pulling part of the Kyubbi into himself.

Originally posted by Astner
Kyūbi's power was partially sealed in the scroll and partially in Naruto.

No it wasn't. We see Minato use the Dead Demon Seal to steal a fair bit of the Kyuubi's chakra. We can see it being sealed into the Death God right there on the page. Its inside the Death God.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it wasn't. We see Minato use the Dead Demon Seal to steal a fair bit of the Kyuubi's chakra. We can see it being sealed into the Death God right there on the page. Its inside the Death God.

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Originally posted by Astner
What manga have you been reading?

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The different one from you clearly. That only releases the Four Element Seal, as it says. It does nothing for the Dead Demon Seal. Which is irreversible as far as I know. Some random ****ing frog saying 'full power' doesn't mean shit compared to whats actually on the page.

I don't know how much longer I can just point you to the actual scene that shows what happened quite clearly without getting repetitive.

Originally posted by Astner
What do you mean no? He clearly explains it to be the case.

Kyūbi's power was partially sealed in the scroll and partially in Naruto.

'No' as in the scroll does not contain the Kyuubi's chakra at all.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-375-9/naruto/chapter-370.html

"It's my belly that has the key matching Naruto's Hakke Seal on it."
"With each year the 4th's seal weakens, this key was left so that the seal could be reinforced..."
"How could you think of putting such an important key on the very safe that it matches..."

http://www.mangareader.net/93-375-11/naruto/chapter-370.html

"Minato only sealed the Nine-Tails Yin chakra using the Shiki Fuujin (Shiki Fuujin being the Shinigami)

http://www.mangareader.net/93-55672-17/naruto/chapter-503.html

"But with the Dead demon seal, I can permanently seal half the Fox's power along with myself."

http://www.mangareader.net/93-375-12/naruto/chapter-370.html

"The very reason Minato went to the trouble of splitting the Nine Tails chakra in two, only sealing the Yang half into Naruto, was so he could leave it for Naruto..."

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
And you think Akatsuki knew that Minato had sealed half of the Kyuubi's chakra within the Shinigami, and the other half within Naruto?

Yeah, something so trivial was probably taught at the academy since it was a legendary story about how Minato saved the village from the 9-tails attack. It was the fact that Tobi was involved that was kept secret: not how Minato defeated Kurama (I originally put "Minato" because Minato defeated himself).

Besides, there was tons of witnesses to that event. Why would it be secret, anyway?

There weren't a lot of witnesses to the end of the showdown- the only ones who could watch were Sarutobi and a few others, and them at the other side of a barrier.

Originally posted by Q99
There weren't a lot of witnesses to the end of the showdown- the only ones who could watch were Sarutobi and a few others, and them at the other side of a barrier.

Any more witnesses other than Sarutobi, and the fact that all the "kids" seemed to know about that event make it seem that it was common knowledge how Minato saved the village. Add in the fact that all the adults in the village shunned and hated Naruto from the beginning and it seems that everyone knows exactly what went down.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, something so trivial was probably taught at the academy since it was a legendary story about how Minato saved the village from the 9-tails attack. It was the fact that Tobi was involved that was kept secret: not how Minato defeated Kurama (I originally put "Minato" because Minato defeated himself).

Besides, there was tons of witnesses to that event. Why would it be secret, anyway?

Everyone was 'taught at the academy' that the Fox was stopped when Minato sealed into a child, not that Minato had to seal half of it within himself and then half of it in the child.
All of this was not taught at the academy seeing as other kids as well as Naruto himself, were never aware of it until whats-his-face in the first chapter revealed it to Naruto.

Only Sarutobi and a few of his ninjas were witnesses to what actually happened. Hardly a 'ton'. Ninjas are known to keep details to themselves and they'd really only reveal it to the upper-most echelons. Intel is a big thing in Naruto-verse.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Everyone was 'taught at the academy' that the Fox was stopped when Minato sealed into a child,

Or rather, that he sealed it. Into what probably wasn't mentioned.

True.

Wonder what it would have been like if young Naruto had been trained to use his Bijuu like Bee was.

IIRC the adults knew about it, shouldn't have told their kids about it, did so anyway and told them to stay away from him. That's why Sasuke didn't know about it.

Yes and no. The adults did know, but the children did not. The children merely shunned Naruto because they saw their parents doing so.

Sakura never knew that Naruto was the Kyuubi's Jinchuurikii until Part 2.

Which is kind of dumb on Sarutobi's part. You'd think it would be smarter to keep the identity of your infant Junchuurikii a secret so the other villages can't try to assassinate or capture him.