The Official Naruto series Thread

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But what makes him stronger now? besides plot.

Originally posted by Kento
But what makes him stronger now? besides plot.

Because Orochimaru brought them back at partial strength the first time.

Originally posted by Q99
Because Orochimaru brought them back at partial strength the first time.
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Maybe Orochimaru did that intentionally or maybe its because of the Zetsu body he's in amping his Edo Tensei Jutsu.

Edit: I'd also like to add that the Naruto anime is finally on the Naruto&Bee vs Itachi and Nagato fight.

Oro: Madara's back and he's gonna kill everyone.

Hashirama: Oh, that wacky Madara and his shenanigans.

lol

Originally posted by Kento
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That's what they just said was the case!

Unrefined version- Weaker, but no rebellion. Refined- Stronger, but can attempt to rebel.

Originally posted by Kento
But what makes him stronger now? besides plot.
I guess it has something to do with him gaining kabuto's knowledge whom was able to not only bring back madara at full power but could also revive an amped version with shodai cells

Originally posted by Q99
That's what they just said was the case!

Unrefined version- Weaker, but no rebellion. Refined- Stronger, but can attempt to rebel.

Where? He's using the zetsu body to strengthen the restraining power of the jutsu. It wasn't said the jutsu is stronger than when Oro first used it, it's stronger than when Tobirama created it nothing more.

couple of observations:

1)what was the weird exchange between sasghey and hashi in the beginning? Looks like either the MS didn't work on hashi or sasghey put it away

2)The senju bros are just too badass. 1st Tobirama is about to go ape shyt by merely lifting a FINGER!! then hashi checks him with an older bro ill kick your ass and you know it stare...both had the other kages and the rest sheyting their pants

3) Tobirama's sensor skills are uber. From sensing the kyubi/naruto chakra to being able to analyze Oros new body to the cellular level. Has any of the eye techs been able to go to the cellular level? cant remember

Originally posted by atxnoe
couple of observations:

1)what was the weird exchange between sasghey and hashi in the beginning? Looks like either the MS didn't work on hashi or sasghey put it away

2)The senju bros are just too badass. 1st Tobirama is about to go ape shyt by merely lifting a FINGER!! then hashi checks him with an older bro ill kick your ass and you know it stare...both had the other kages and the rest sheyting their pants

3) Tobirama's sensor skills are uber. From sensing the kyubi/naruto chakra to being able to analyze Oros new body to the cellular level. Has any of the eye techs been able to go to the cellular level? cant remember

1) He didn't even try to use it. And yeah, looks like Q99 was right about Sasuke being able to activate it, even though he has the EMS. Meh, makes no sense.

2) Hashirama was the one who made everyone else shit their pants. Tobirama merely made Suigetsu shit his pants. But yes, they are badass in their own ways.

3) Minato was the one who sensed that Naruto's & Kurama's chakra had melded together. Tobirama instead sensed Madara's chakra.
Yes, eye techs have been able to see on a cellular level.

Originally posted by Kento
Where? He's using the zetsu body to strengthen the restraining power of the jutsu. It wasn't said the jutsu is stronger than when Oro first used it, it's stronger than when Tobirama created it nothing more.

In one of the translations, right here

"Having improved the accuracy and efficacy of the jutsu was a mistake. This time we were brought back to this world at almost full power.

This time implies last time was different.

And Mangastream says "That means your edo tensei has no hope of limiting my movements."

So, the one translation specifies this time. The other one specifies that being at near-full strength means he can't be restrained by it.

Considering he is saying this knowing he was restrained last time, whichever version you take, there is clear implied difference between the two summonings.

Harishama explains his story to Sasuke:

"It all started in a manga made by Akira Toriyama..."

Originally posted by Q99
In one of the translations, right here

"Having improved the accuracy and efficacy of the jutsu was a mistake. This time we were brought back to this world at almost full power.

This time implies last time was different.

And Mangastream says "That means your edo tensei has no hope of limiting my movements."

So, the one translation specifies this time. The other one specifies that being at near-full strength means he can't be restrained by it.

Considering he is saying this knowing he was restrained last time, whichever version you take, there is clear implied difference between the two summonings.

You know.............................makes little sense.

Oro could just place the talisman in the head, right? I didn't' see him put one in their head.

He's probably using Kabuto's variant of the jutsu now.

Originally posted by Bentley
He's probably using Kabuto's variant of the jutsu now.

Exactly. The talisman version = more control. Kabuto's version = more power, but you get crap like Madara and Tobirama blowing you off.

Originally posted by Q99
Exactly. The talisman version = more control. Kabuto's version = more power, but you get crap like Madara and Tobirama blowing you off.

I had no idea there were two variations. 🙁 I just thought it was all the same with more power added if you add Senju cells.

Tobirama cracked the entire building by squeezing a wall with his fingers.

That's pretty cool.

Also, retcons. Retcons everywhere.

i liked that as well.

kinda one-up'd what Gai did way back in part one during the Konoha invasion.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Also, retcons. Retcons everywhere.

An easy one, and on something pretty much everyone agreed was in need of a fix.

meh, i always chalked the "god of shinobi" thing to translation error.