The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Tzeentch1,600 pages

It's the general "functionally immortal" trope. When someone becomes unkillable they have to get their ass beat repeatedly to emphasize how unkillable they are. If they weren't completely unkillable before, that entails a massive drop in competence.

Yeah, I have read it.

Mind you really good regen doesn't mean a boring fight or bad villain. Orochimaru had to heal a lot in his fight with Four tails Naruto but it was still pretty badass. The problem here is Madara is barely putting up a fight in return.

his skills and array of powers dropped off heavily.
other than gaining the black orb he really doesn't have anything else that makes him better than he was as an edo

He's also gained immunity to non-sage jutsu, and I'm pretty sure his speed and physical ability appear higher. And the shadow thing he just pulled.

Let's not forget, the Sasuke and Naruto he's fighting now are simply *stronger* than they were before, and nothing like 8-gates was pulled on him either.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
his skills and array of powers dropped off heavily.
other than gaining the black orb he really doesn't have anything else that makes him better than he was as an edo

He was at his most competent when he was resurrected. The way in which he proceeded to make every other known character look useless in comparison, all in the space of a few chapters, was ridiculous.

Now he's entirely on the defensive.

Originally posted by Q99
He's also gained immunity to non-sage jutsu, and I'm pretty sure his speed and physical ability appear higher. And the shadow thing he just pulled.

Let's not forget, the Sasuke and Naruto he's fighting now are simply *stronger* than they were before, and nothing like 8-gates was pulled on him either.

They're right though, Kishi's having Madara barely trying to put up a fight. Against Naruto & Sasuke, he gets a slide as they are collectively supposed to be as strong as Hagoromo, but against Obito and Kakashi, he was waiting for them to make their move, even though he's already fast enough to speedblitz Sage Mode Naruto.

Against Gai, he only used the Truth Seeking Balls. I understand that he wanted to see what 8 Gates could do, and a notable character trait of his is holding back. However, why didn't he use Susano'o, or Sage Mode Mokuton to defend himself once he realized the 8 Gates was a greater threat to him than anything else he had faced barring Hashirama? Do Juubi Jinchuurikiis lose all jutsu with the exception of the truth seeking balls and Rinnegan powers or something?

Naruto's nine-tails chakra mode looking like Ashura's chakra construct is likely due to his nature as one of Ashura's incarnations, but why does Minato's nine-tails chakra mode look like that as well? And would Mito's bijuu mode look like that as well?

Well I'm guessing that Minato has Hagaromo's taste in fashion? I would assume Mito's would look like Naruto's if she had one but didn't she pretty much tell Kurama to STFU when she was alive?

Speaking of Minato...doesn't he still have the other half of the Kyuubi chakra: so much has happened that detail kind of lost me. And if he does have if, I don't think he does, shouldn't he have the ability to make chakra arms in place of the ones he lost?

According to Tobi, Mito could sense negative emotions like Naruto, which only happened when Naruto started using Kurama's chakra. So yeah, she likely had one. But seeing as how Bee looks different when using Gyuuki's chakra, I think Mito's transformation might have looked like V2 as well, instead of Naruto's chakra cloak.

He tried to give the other half to Naruto, but Black Zetsu stole it, and Obito then put that chakra into Naruto.

Minato has been made to look like a complete tool ever since he got resurrected, that it's now just lulzy.

Bee's chakra cloak is comparable to the other jinchuruki's even Naruto's. Maybe it has to deal with Naruto/Minato accessing Kurama's raw chakra w/o Kurama himself perhaps? But as you say Mito had emotion senses so its possible she could've had the same one.

Okay, I figured Minato would no longer have it but I wasn't sure.

Maybe Orochimaru put a command in for the Edo revival that forces Minato to look like a tool as a means of getting back at him: same for Hiruzen.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Minato has been made to look like a complete tool ever since he got resurrected, that it's now just lulzy.

As a Minato fanboy, this makes me sad. 🙁

Originally posted by Q99
He's also gained immunity to non-sage jutsu, and I'm pretty sure his speed and physical ability appear higher. And the shadow thing he just pulled.

Let's not forget, the Sasuke and Naruto he's fighting now are simply *stronger* than they were before, and nothing like 8-gates was pulled on him either.

we all know he's more powerful but he's not really as showy as before

Originally posted by dadudemon
As a Minato fanboy, this makes me sad. 🙁

As a Minato fanboy, you're probably used to that though. 😈

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naruto's nine-tails chakra mode looking like Ashura's chakra construct is likely due to his nature as one of Ashura's incarnations, but why does Minato's nine-tails chakra mode look like that as well? And would Mito's bijuu mode look like that as well?
Maybe it's due to Kushina being involved in the sealing? Or because the chakra half is still synchronized with Kurama?

It maybe it just looks cooler for Minato this way..

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, I have read it.

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Hm, I haven't updated the chart ranking for awhile... mainly because new stuff keeps coming, but maybe I should do so before *too* many new levels show up ^^

Do it bro.

Also do One Piece. No longer 2012. uhuh

Captain Konoha and the Winter Shinobi!

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One Piece is pretty hard to tier. There's so much *less* information. Everyone having their own unique abilities, and fewer fights outside those involving the mains.

"who the hell is Obito?".

😂

Originally posted by Q99
Captain Konoha and the Winter Shinobi!

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One Piece is pretty hard to tier. There's so much *less* information. Everyone having their own unique abilities, and fewer fights outside those involving the mains.

Ha awesome. Need to watch that movie.

You can do it with the help of your friends. 👆 (Lesson brought to you by Wan Pissu)