oh yeah, definitely
can't wait to see what that secret technique he's been practicing is
what do you think his second element is? i think it's earth because of the way he dug that hole during the chuunin exams... unless all ninja can dig that fast
my friends think it's gonna be water so he can beat Sasuke's fire jutsu, but i think Naruto can already take Sasuke in a one-on-one fight, he's surely now faster than Killerbee, and way stronger too
Originally posted by stickman618
oh yeah, definitelycan't wait to see what that secret technique he's been practicing is
what do you think his second element is? i think it's earth because of the way he dug that hole during the chuunin exams... unless all ninja can dig that fast
my friends think it's gonna be water so he can beat Sasuke's fire jutsu, but i think Naruto can already take Sasuke in a one-on-one fight, he's surely now faster than Killerbee, and way stronger too
Second element is either water or eath, but not lightening because i don't think either of his parents used that kind.
Good point on the Earth thing.
I agree that he has to be faster than 8-tails now. And most of those predictions someone posted up all pretty much came true so Naruto should have passed up Sasuke already. Naruto should be physically stronger than any person or character in all the manga now. If you remember, Tsunade's and sakura's strength comes from focusing a burst of chakra at the contact point, so it is really a chakra explosion and not just lifting power, unless someone can prove otherwise, they were all impacts that showed their strength, no lifting feats. However, sage mode actually makes the user physically stronger. So strong that it's absurd. How much do those stone toads weigh? 10 tons? 20? more?
Thar's enough power to literally punch a hole right through any ninja's chest, barring Jinchurriki's and other sage mode users.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I still don't see Naruto having better stats than Kirabi (though his techniques are certainly better) after all Kirabi made Jugo look like a weakling and Jugo is one of the physically strongest characters in the series.
I agree that Jugo is one of the physically strongest (top five, at the very least), but I don't think there is anyone stronger, physically, than sage mode naruto.
Originally posted by Magee
I want to see more of the eight tails guy, made me laugh pretty much every time he said some thing.
Ditto, homie. That guy is just plain bad ass.
Hm, im starting to think Tobi isnt actually Madara.
I mean, why would Kisame say Uchiha Itachi was the last remaining Uchiha after Sasuke fought Deidara (Kisame thought Sasuke died), when he knew that Madara was the Mizukage. I mean, he'd have to atleast seen the sharingan since he seen Madara before..
Ofc, their's a possibility that Madara had his sharingan unactivated the whole time while being the Mizukage.
Originally posted by dadudemonTsunade lifted up Gamabunta's sword and jammed it through Manda's nose, pinning it to the ground. That's lifting strength. He "has" to be faster than Kirabi now? Kirabi has the full backing of the second most powerful Biju behind him. The idea that Sage Mode>that is horrendous, and considering their feats as well. Kirabi made Sasuke, one of the fastest characters in the show, look like a joke, Sasuke could barely defend himself against him. As for Kirabi's physical might, well we don't know the exact limit, we just know he physically overpowered Jugo, who is not only one of the strongest but is one of the largest characters in the show(he's bigger than fvcking Kisame), which is an indication of incredible strength.
I agree that he has to be faster than 8-tails now. And most of those predictions someone posted up all pretty much came true so Naruto should have passed up Sasuke already. Naruto should be physically stronger than any person or character in all the manga now. If you remember, Tsunade's and sakura's strength comes from focusing a burst of chakra at the contact point, so it is really a chakra explosion and not just lifting power, unless someone can prove otherwise, they were all impacts that showed their strength, no lifting feats. However, sage mode actually makes the user physically stronger. So strong that it's absurd. How much do those stone toads weigh? 10 tons? 20? more?Thar's enough power to literally punch a hole right through any ninja's chest, barring Jinchurriki's and other sage mode users.
But here is the thing about Kirabi and Sage Mode Naruto. We have yet to actually see the limits they have, Kirabi just toyed with Team Hawk and Naruto still hasn't done enough to say how strong or fast he really is. I just find Naruto being more powerful than the strongest Jinchurriki shown in the series who also has the full backing of his beast kinda doubtful.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Tsunade lifted up Gamabunta's sword and jammed it through Manda's nose, pinning it to the ground. That's lifting strength.
Thanks for that. Yeah, I couldn't think of any lifting feats for Tsunade. I'm starting to remember why the hell Tsunade is Hokage. That was one major sweet feat.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
He "has" to be faster than Kirabi now?
Yeah, I'm thinking that he has to be because Naruto fooled the Pein's and got a Rasengan off and attacked in the time it took him to fly from his spot behind Tsunade to crushing a rocket powered Pein. He did it so fast that the Pein looks like it didn't even notice. That has to be the best speed feat in the managa yet. (Other than space-time jutsus and Tobi's shit.)
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Kirabi has the full backing of the second most powerful Biju behind him. The idea that Sage Mode>that is horrendous, and considering their feats as well. Kirabi made Sasuke, one of the fastest characters in the show, look like a joke, Sasuke could barely defend himself against him. As for Kirabi's physical might, well we don't know the exact limit, we just know he physically overpowered Jugo, who is not only one of the strongest but is one of the largest characters in the show(he's bigger than fvcking Kisame), which is an indication of incredible strength.But here is the thing about Kirabi and Sage Mode Naruto. We have yet to actually see the limits they have, Kirabi just toyed with Team Hawk and Naruto still hasn't done enough to say how strong or fast he really is. I just find Naruto being more powerful than the strongest Jinchurriki shown in the series who also has the full backing of his beast kinda doubtful.
Yeah, Sage mode is the shit. Very scary shit, actually. Kisame and Itachi were everything short of scared shitless of Jiraiya.
I agree that we need to see some more shit from Naruto and Jugo to make a better assessment, but Naruto seems to be a whole head and shoulders above everyone else.
Originally posted by dadudemon1. Honestly, she is only a brute. She is not that fast, isn't really versatile, when it comes to combat, she ain't much. She is probably the weakest Hokage.
Thanks for that. Yeah, I couldn't think of any lifting feats for Tsunade. I'm starting to remember why the hell Tsunade is Hokage. That was one major sweet feat.Yeah, I'm thinking that he has to be because Naruto fooled the Pein's and got a Rasengan off and attacked in the time it took him to fly from his spot behind Tsunade to crushing a rocket powered Pein. He did it so fast that the Pein looks like it didn't even notice. That has to be the best speed feat in the managa yet. (Other than space-time jutsus and Tobi's shit.)
Yeah, Sage mode is the shit. Very scary shit, actually. Kisame and Itachi were everything short of scared shitless of Jiraiya.
I agree that we need to see some more shit from Naruto and Jugo to make a better assessment, but Naruto seems to be a whole head and shoulders above everyone else.
2. He moved what was maybe fifty feet and crushed one of Pein's bodies, sure it was rocket boosted, but we have no idea when Naruto started running over there do we? Itachi was so fast that Kakashi could barely perceive his movements, Kakashi himself is very fast and a Sharingan user. Sasuke was able to keep up with that speed to an extent, and Sasuke was a joke to Kirabi. And Madara's shit is a space/time jutsu, the most advanced one in the series according to Kakashi.
3. Kisame, as tough as he is, did have some mild trouble with the Four Tailed Host. Itachi though powerful, is not as much so compared to Kirabi in terms of speed and strength, hell, overall Itachi may not even be Kirabi's equal, Kirabi toyed with the team and then threw the fight to get out of his guard duties. And it has also been somewhat proven that Itachi and Kisame were not afraid of Jiraiya afterall. And we have not seen the limit of Kirabi's power either.
4. Well I said Kirabi but yeah, they all need more feats. Specifically we need to see Kirabi taking a fight seriously.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Honestly, she is only a brute. She is not that fast, isn't really versatile, when it comes to combat, she ain't much. She is probably the weakest Hokage.
Weakest as in how the japanese describe weak and strong in their manga and anime, yes. Strongest in terms of physcial strength, though.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
2. He moved what was maybe fifty feet and crushed one of Pein's bodies, sure it was rocket boosted, but we have no idea when Naruto started running over there do we?
We know the Pein's are fast enough to to kill Jiraiya in Sage mode. To think Jiraiya is slow is to err, greatly.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Itachi was so fast that Kakashi could barely perceive his movements, Kakashi himself is very fast and a Sharingan user.
I don't remember this. Where did this happen? Was it when Itachi first visited Konoha in the Manga? (Where Kakashi got the 72 hours of torture.)
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Sasuke was able to keep up with that speed to an extent, and Sasuke was a joke to Kirabi.
No, Sasuke fully kept up with that speed. I don't remember him slacking behind at all.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
3. Kisame, as tough as he is, did have some mild trouble with the Four Tailed Host.
Indeedily. He was a wee bit drained after taking that one down.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Itachi though powerful, is not as much so compared to Kirabi in terms of speed and strength,
I would give strength to Kirabi because he took that crap from Jugo like it was nothing. I think that the Sasuke fight where Kirabi was keeping up with Sasuke was simply PIS in Sasuke's disfavor in order to keep Kirabi from looking weak to the reader in anyway shape or form.. Either that or Kirabi is indeed uber fast.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
hell, overall Itachi may not even be Kirabi's equal, Kirabi toyed with the team and then threw the fight to get out of his guard duties.,
I would say that Kirabi is powerful, but not like Itachi. Itachi has something going for him that Kirabi doesn't. He's a tactical genius and just simply a genius. He basically planned out the fight with Sasuke. He was also weak before tha tfight started and he had already planned out two outcomes for the fight. (Give Sasuke his eye powers, or post-pone their fight for another day.)
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
And it has also been somewhat proven that Itachi and Kisame were not afraid of Jiraiya afterall.
Afraid is a strong term. More like Itachi had to talk his dumbass partner out of a fight with one man that would end up with all of them dying.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
And we have not seen the limit of Kirabi's power either.
I disagree. I'm pretty sure we've seen the limit. I mean, what else is there? Jutsus?
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
4. Well I said Kirabi but yeah, they all need more feats. Specifically we need to see Kirabi taking a fight seriously.
True...but......can we really see anything more serious? He went full 8-tails.