Originally posted by Quincy
As for the skeleton, that must be how the tails thing works. With each new tail, the kyubi begins to reform. 6 leads to the skeleton of the beast, 7 the muscles, 8 the skin, 9 the fur?
That's a logical take on it. 👆
Originally posted by Kento
Why would Itachi be talking about saving Sasuke, and give a Naruto a 'Defeat Pein' ability when Madara is the much bigger threat pretty much according to Itachi?
Because Pain is the muscle. Pain is > Madara.
Also, Itachi knows that they are after him to get his Beast.
Originally posted by Kento
And we never actually see Pein kill Hinata so she could very well just be koed by the Shinrei Tensai or whatever it's called.
I agree. And how do we know that it wasn't a clone of hers?
Originally posted by Kento
Wasn't her body also hidden behind rubble from Naruto?
Originally posted by Kento
Though Hinata really has nothing to contribute at all to the story.
Yes she does. She is a kind timid person inspired by the main character. She is a potential love interest and a noble of the Hyuga clan.
Originally posted by Kento
Heck she doesn't have anything for her own clan as she's not even next in line to rule it. Hanabi is.
Hanabi? Where is it mentioned that she is next in line? I don't remember that.
Originally posted by Kento
So killing he wouldn't really be a loss to anything.
It would to Naruto and everyone that cares about her. The people in the village who didn't know her personally would still consider it a loss.
Originally posted by Kento
Where as Kakashi's death can be seen as Naruto being the next Hokage without having to wait for Kakashi to end his rein after the whole Jiraiya/Tsunade talk about Kakashi being the next Hokage.
And this is why Kakashi isn't dead, me thinks. 😄
Originally posted by dadudemonWe really have no idea if Pein > Madara. Itachi spoke as if Madara has great power. Just because we've not seen Madara do anything and prefers to manipulate people doesn't mean Madara is weak. And Itachi specifically refers to being able to save Sasuke or stop Sasuke. Pein wouldn't have anything to do with Sasuke.
That's a logical take on it. 👆Because Pain is the muscle. Pain is > Madara.
Also, Itachi knows that they are after him to get his Beast.
I agree. And how do we know that it wasn't a clone of hers?
Yes she does. She is a kind timid person inspired by the main character. She is a potential love interest and a noble of the Hyuga clan.
Hanabi? Where is it mentioned that she is next in line? I don't remember that.
It would to Naruto and everyone that cares about her. The people in the village who didn't know her personally would still consider it a loss.
And this is why Kakashi isn't dead, me thinks. 😄
Well the fact that can Hinata even make clones that can fight? She sure won't be able to do shadow clone, normal clones won't be effected cause they aren't real, and the Hyuuga style is one of taijutsu not ninjutsu.
Who never gets any screen time, and while part of the main Hyuuga house she isn't even acknowledged by her father, and is weak. I like Hinata but she doesn't really do anything. She hasn't before Neji fight, and hasn't up until her death after that fight. And even if she does survive she has a better chance ending up with Shino than Naruto unless Kishi does something surprising.
When Kurenai remembers talking with her father he doesn't care about her, and says the Hyuuga doesn't need her. Unless Hinata's father chooses Neji to break the main/branch thing then Hanabi was chosen to be next...Their father was training Hanabi not Hinata.
I mean storywise. Sure it brought Naruto to 6-tails, and the Hyuuga are probably going to be angry..well some anyway. But she doesn't add anything to the story as she's pushed aside more than most of the other Rookie 9. Only Shino gets pushed aside more than Hinata. And Ino probably gets pushed aside as much as Hinata.
Originally posted by dadudemonyou could be right, itachi after all did the same thing to sasuke to ward off madara. an automatic technique that keeps naruto just out of pein's grasp.
Itachi also gave Naruto some gift or ability. That ability could be that the nine-tailed beast cannot be drawn out by Pein's beast extraction technique. Based on that guess, that means naruto will be defeated, drug back to the extraction chamber, and not get his beast taken, or something like that.It could be the uber defeat pain technique, or something. lol
Originally posted by dadudemon
I think you guys are forgetting something.Here's my take...
Pain wanted to draw out the Nine-Tailed beast for his own collection purposes. He didn't actually kill Hinata, he just wanted to piss Naruto off enough to bring it out.
Itachi also gave Naruto some gift or ability. That ability could be that the nine-tailed beast cannot be drawn out by Pein's beast extraction technique. Based on that guess, that means naruto will be defeated, drug back to the extraction chamber, and not get his beast taken, or something like that.
It could be the uber defeat pain technique, or something. lol
What would the the actual in-universe purpose of Pein keeping her alive?
Also, what makes Pain>Madara?
To date, Madara has the most broken jutsu in Naruto, Pain cannot even harm him, and he was able to toy with Kakashi and his team without actually fighting back.
Pain cannot even hit Madara.
And another thing, NO ONE is relevant to Naruto's plot anymore, character development stopped after Shippuden started, with the exception of Naruto, Sasuke, and Shikamaru for like three chapters.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneruYeah, and yet he got his ass handed down by the 1st hokage.
Also, what makes Pain>Madara?To date, Madara has the most broken jutsu in Naruto, Pain cannot even harm him, and he was able to toy with Kakashi and his team without actually fighting back.
Pain cannot even hit Madara.
Hell, Madara in his prime, with the EMS, and with the Kyuubi failed to destroy the village.
Originally posted by Pyron_ExpressWe don't know how 1st Hokage did it though.
Yeah, and yet he got his ass handed down by the 1st hokage.Hell, Madara in his prime, with the EMS, and with the Kyuubi failed to destroy the village.
Madara probably doesn't have a huge blowing up move like Pein either. And he pretty much decimated Konoha with Kyuubi..assuming Madara summoned Kyuubi 16 years ago.