The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by King Kandy
I expect him to be able to win with SKILL if he's so great and not kyuubi (this time) or hax chakra (so many other times.)

How is entrapping Pein and disguising his shadow clones as rock formations not skill? How is taking down Kabuto with a rasengan, by using his own shadow clone to harness his chakra not skill?

It takes massive amounts of skill to summon those shadow clones - it's a jonin technique.

It takes plenty of skill to use Sage Tech.

And it sure takes a damn lot of skill to beat Pein.

We saw how far his skill got him vs. Pein, it got him on the ground with swords stuck in him and helpless. Then he got RECHARGED and Pein... didn't. His skill wasn't enough to win the first time he just was lucky to get a second chance after Pein had already lost all his bodies. Not a fair matchup since the first time he had to beat the ones besides Deva.

Originally posted by King Kandy
We saw how far his skill got him vs. Pein, it got him on the ground with swords stuck in him and helpless. Then he got RECHARGED and Pein... didn't. His skill wasn't enough to win the first time he just was lucky to get a second chance after Pein had already lost all his bodies. Not a fair matchup since the first time he had to beat the ones besides Deva.

You make a solid point to point out that Naruto's chakra got recharged. But can Pein run out of chakra? Isn't he a dead body? I'm unclear about this.

But seriously, give credit where credits due - Naruto beat Pein in a fight.

Originally posted by The Red
When his father took 3 years. Exactly.

Originally posted by Quincy
You make a solid point to point out that Naruto's chakra got recharged. But can Pein run out of chakra? Isn't he a dead body? I'm unclear about this.

But seriously, give credit where credits due - Naruto beat Pein in a fight.

Originally posted by Kento
Nagato isn't a dead body though. And it's his chakra being used for all the Pein's when they do moves.

We'll see when they explain what the hell that stupid box thing is he chills in.

Originally posted by Quincy
We'll see when they explain what the hell that stupid box thing is he chills in.

Originally posted by Kento
I just figured it's because he looks like he's all but a skeleton, and looks like he's dying.

I won't disagree with you there. He looks like ass.

Originally posted by Quincy
You make a solid point to point out that Naruto's chakra got recharged. But can Pein run out of chakra? Isn't he a dead body? I'm unclear about this.

But seriously, give credit where credits due - Naruto beat Pein in a fight.

Naruto beat ONE Pein in a fight. When it was the full six paths against him, he lost.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Naruto beat ONE Pein in a fight. When it was the full six paths against him, he lost.

Originally posted by The Red
He destroyed all, but one Pein. Seriously. Nobody has ever done that and even Nagato/Pein admitted to that.

Until the Kyuubi is extracted from Naruto somehow, it'll always be something he uses in a pinch. Not to mention that even if he keeps it, he'll eventually learn to master it's chakra and to call on it like Killerbee does.

If he does that that'll be something respect-worthy. But if he just gets random recharges whenever he'll lose a fight that's just
pis.

Worth noting that Pein handled 6-tails, and was prepared to make a bigger Chibaku to handle 8-tails, so he's not only above Naru but also almost the Kyuubi. But really anyone should lose to two narutos and the kyuubi, it's not a bad showing at all.

sure Naruto got a recharge, but Pain had six bodies

sounds fair enough to me, if he could've gone one on one with gravity man straight away he would've probably got the same outcome he did this time

Maybe Naruto is above Deva Pein (but also possibly not as Pein is curently tired and he could had stopped 8-tails.) But Pein is six, not one.

Naruto got recharged and Pain went through 5 bodies, well more like 7 really so it seems fair, to me anyway

and a move i really want to see again is the Naruto combo/ Uzumaki barrage, i loved that move

So far we've learned the following things:

6 paths > Naruto

Naruto > 6 Paths except Deva

Naruto > A tired Deva

yup, that sounds about right

now, what if Nagato can use all six techniques??

he could alternate between deflecting and absorbing attacks, unless he really is just confined to that chair

Nagato looks like he could use all the techniques to me. It's become increasingly clear that he simply fires his attacks through the bodies as opposed to having the bodies do anything themselves. This is supported by The Sage of Six Paths being able to use Chibaku despite not having six bodies (at least, not that we know of.)

Besides, the Rinnegan can learn any Jutsu so even if he didn't have the inherent ability to use the technique, he could learn it.

If he can't use those attack that'll be pretty messed up. After all he could do with learning attacks when he was trained and then left by Jiraiya. He could probably do all of them a lot easier also because he wouldn't need Pein to get closer to use Chibaku or take chakra away from other bodies to do a large Shinra Tensei..

Maybe he can't do those attacks, which is why he looks like hell, and has to even USE the Six Realms.