Well if his sharingan isn't damaged, then why does he need Kabuto's help in fixing it?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/454/17/
Furthermore, just look at the thing. That is not a good color for an eye to be.
Well if his sharingan isn't damaged, then why does he need Kabuto's help in fixing it?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/454/17/
Furthermore, just look at the thing. That is not a good color for an eye to be.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well if his sharingan isn't damaged, then why does he need Kabuto's help in fixing it?http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/454/17/
Furthermore, just look at the thing. That is not a good color for an eye to be.
Touche.
This could further my point abou the Sharingan having to be given.
Also, didn't Itachi say that kakashi was better with his Sharingan eye than even most Uchihas?
Also, I could have sworn it said the Sharingan eye had to be given willingly. I SWEAR IT! weep
Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, I could have sworn it said the Sharingan eye had to be given willingly. I SWEAR IT! weep
I don't recall this. However only Uchiha can activate the Sharingan. Kakashi going to the lengths he does is proof that. Either he can't deactivate it, or knows if he does he would be able to reactivate it, thus would lose it forever. Since i personally doubt he covers his eye up for the image.
When you combine that knowledge with the fact we know using the Sharingan consumes chakra, we know if someone died the control over their chakra to maintain the Sharingan would be lost. So it makes sense it would have to be given, or at least taken very close after them being dead.
So it isn't stated but it can be worked out there has to be at least a level of truth to this.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
I don't recall this. However only Uchiha can activate the Sharingan. Kakashi going to the lengths he does is proof that. Either he can't deactivate it, or knows if he does he would be able to reactivate it, thus would lose it forever. Since i personally doubt he covers his eye up for the image.When you combine that knowledge with the fact we know using the Sharingan consumes chakra, we know if someone died the control over their chakra to maintain the Sharingan would be lost. So it makes sense it would have to be given, or at least taken very close after them being dead.
So it isn't stated but it can be worked out there has to be at least a level of truth to this.
Hmm. Maybe that's it.
I'll see if I can post on a really fanatical Naruto forum to see if they can find what I'm thinking about. It's possible that I have it backwards and it was only in the Anime, not the manga.
Also, the Sharingan should be able to see right through his eye-lid and cloth over his face. I don't understand how that little bit of stuff stops the sharingan transplant from working.
On to the big ass post. I recomend everyone read it, critique it, or add comments.
The 4th being inside Naruto's head has been bothering me. I don't think it's all it seems to be. He said he saw things...but he would have to NOT be in Naruto's head to have seen those. He had been watching things from “inside here” which was another place in Naruto’s mind. He saw the hidden leaf village get pwned. Naruto wasn’t there when it happened.
So the plane of existence they went to was NOT in Naruto’s head…but some other place. The forth snapped his fingers and they went to this white place that has this fuzzy aura around them.
So, that wasn’t in Naruto’s mind because of several things:
1.The Forth saw the village get flattened by Pain.
2.They were not in a place that looked like anything we have seen of Naruto’s mind
3.The Forth also knew of Akatsuki and of Tobi. He said that it was ”a man from Akatsuki wearing a mask.” Something he couldn’t know unless he was observing things from a place other than Naruto’s mind. Naruto didn’t know until the Forth told him. (seen here: http://img09.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/47-440.0/compressed/10.jpg )
Here’s the scan:
http://img09.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/47-440.0/compressed/09.jpg
Also, the Forth said something about Madara to Naruto:
“No one could ever face him without a very unique set of abilities.”
http://img16.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/47-440.0/compressed/08.jpg
What does that mean? The old man kage…does he have those? What are those? Does anyone have a guess at what those abilities should be, such as “dimensional binding” techniques or something wack like that?
The Forth is also arrogant…lol…he said he sealed the fox in Naruto because he knew Naruto would learn how to use it someday…cause Naruto was his son. 😆
Also, The Forth Had Chakra…but he’s dead. How can that be? How can he have charka, visit with Naruto in another plane of reality while taking Naruto’s mind with him, and perform a very high-level jutsu on Naruto’s “mind version”? All very odd.
ALSO, apparently, it’s hard to subjugate your Bijuu. It takes years. Notice that all of those that could control their Bijuu are adult shinobis and are good shinobis in their own right, without their tailed beasts.
Anyway, Pain said this about Naruto when he thought Naruto could control his tailed beast: “He has already found a way to control the nine-tailed fox?” (Found here: http://img12.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/47-441.0/compressed/nnaruto_441_sleepyfans.02.jpg ) Tells me a couple of things:
1.The nine-tailed fox is really hard to control. (duh)
2.Controlling your bijuu is really hard. (most likely what it means)
3.It takes years to learn how to master your tailed beast. (also a duh…but, it wasn’t obvious until I read Pain’s words.
It could also be foreshadowing of Naruto eventually learning how to fully control the 9-tailed fox.
Also, here’s another great speed feat. One of the best:
That’s got to be one of the best speed feats. Pain is coming at Naruto. Next panel, he’s instantly beating down pown and breaking Pain’s blade with his bare-freaking hand. Also, Naruto kicked Pan at an absurdly fast speed and he smacked into rocks and cracked the rocks. That’s some uber Taijutsu, right there.
And, lookie here!
Naruto’s Rasenshuriken attack is on the same scale as the Chibaku Tensei:
And here’s another ridiculous speed feat from a sage-less Naruto:
He then gets thrown by his Shadow clones at an obviously absurd speed to hit Pain:
He travels about 100 meters in what? Obviously less than five seconds. It was much faster than that as Pain didn’t have time to react. This very well might be the greatest non-transport speed feat in Naruto.
Also, it’s almost obvious that Danzo controlled the Major Daimyo to select Danzo has Hokage. See here:
Here's a summary for you guys that are impatient:
1. The Forth wasn't inside Naruto's head when observed some of the things he did.
2. The Forth has another plane of existance that we don't know about. It's all white...n'stuff.
3. The Old man Kage has that unique set of abilities.4. The Forth is delightfully arrogant.
5. The Forth is "alive" in some sort of way. He's not completely dead. He had Chakra, n'stuff. There's something going on there that we don't know the full story too.
6. In order to fight against Madara, you have to have a very special set of techniques.
7. Naruto's Rasenshuriken thrown is one of the most powerful techniques shown in Naruto. It was almost on the same scale as Pain's Chibaku Tensei. (And it was just starting to explode.)
8. Naruto has more than one of the best speed feats in Naruto. Raikage isn't the only uber one.
9. Danzo might have controlled the Daimyo.
10. It is REALLY hard to subjugate your Bijuu. It would appear that it was forshadowed that Naruto would eventually subjugate his biju.
Originally posted by King Kandy
None of your scans are appearing for me. Not even one.
They all appear for me.
What you can do is quote me, and copy and paste the link into the address field.
Also, you could look at the URL and see the chapter and page that I am referencing. (As you can tell, I have had similar problems to some of the items others have posted.)
Originally posted by King KandySame for me.
None of your scans are appearing for me. Not even one.
@Dadude - The fourth most likely put part of his 'spirit' into something to save Naruto from releasing Kyuubi, and that's why he was 'alive' while still being dead. But hmm is kinda interesting how the fourth says he seen Konoha's destruction so it's possible he wasn't in Naruto but in his own little void he created to split up a piece of himself.
As for the demons being hard to subjugate. It would more likely depend on the demon itself. Hachibi is more easy going than Shukaku, and Kyuubi who one is blood thirsty and the other is pure destruction. And 4-tails is extremely dumb so it would probably be easy to subjugate also.
Originally posted by Kento
Same for me.@Dadude - The fourth most likely put part of his 'spirit' into something to save Naruto from releasing Kyuubi, and that's why he was 'alive' while still being dead. But hmm is kinda interesting how the fourth says he seen Konoha's destruction so it's possible he wasn't in Naruto but in his own little void he created to split up a piece of himself.
As for the demons being hard to subjugate. It would more likely depend on the demon itself. Hachibi is more easy going than Shukaku, and Kyuubi who one is blood thirsty and the other is pure destruction. And 4-tails is extremely dumb so it would probably be easy to subjugate also.
Yup. I agree. It's possible that Pain knows how strong-willed the 9-tails is, how powerful it is, etc. He did mention the 9-tails by name.
Still, I think that it takes an exceptional shinobi years to accomplish it, even with a dumb biju.
Originally posted by dadudemonNot saying it wouldn't be hard to do the 4-tails or any others but some would probably be easier than other also. Hachibi for one who seems to be willing to be with Bee, and not trying to get free. Course Kyuubi was forced, and caged, Hachibi doesn't seem to be caged, and Gaara and Shukaku were sealed in a way that they never met.
Yup. I agree. It's possible that Pain knows how strong-willed the 9-tails is, how powerful it is, etc. He did mention the 9-tails by name.Still, I think that it takes an exceptional shinobi years to accomplish it, even with a dumb biju.
Originally posted by Kento
Not saying it wouldn't be hard to do the 4-tails or any others but some would probably be easier than other also. Hachibi for one who seems to be willing to be with Bee, and not trying to get free. Course Kyuubi was forced, and caged, Hachibi doesn't seem to be caged, and Gaara and Shukaku were sealed in a way that they never met.
actually i think gaara did meet with his biju. wasnt he referring to it as motheer or was that the sand.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
None of dadude's scans are showing for me either.Anyways, why can Gaara still use his sand? Those abilities should have been removed.
No because the power to control the sand was his because if you can remember Gaara refuses to use the Shukaku's power after he fought naruto. The fight against Deidara was all him.
