Originally posted by King Kandyitachi handed him that jutsu member?
Sasuke also worked his ass off. Remember when he learned the fireball jutsu when he was a kid? That was Sasuke at his best.
the forhead poke is itachi's jutsu/skill transfer tech, sasuke had to work hard with chidori and his speed though.
Originally posted by dadudemonmy beef is that he just didn't get mad at him. at all.
Madara has his reasons, though. The whole Uchiha clan betrayed him. He was seeking his revenge. Madara WAS Uchiha. He was their ultimate leader. He brought them to greatness and he tried to bring them back to greatness, but they kicked him out and tarnished the Uchiha name and became Senu lap dogs.It would be enormously hypocritical for Sasuke to get pissed at Madara, an almost sacred elder from the Uchiha clan, for seeking his revenge.
And, Madara wanted to get the elders, as well.
The only thing wrong I see is Sasuke not getting pissed at Madara for his parents' death: Sasuke should have been pissed about that, just a tad.
His love for Itachi is understandable AND justified. Danzo confirmed to Sasuke that what Madara said was true. So, it's no longer a question of Madara lying to manipulate Sasuke...or at least when it comes to the elders ordering the killing of the Uchiha due to revolt they were planning. Some of the finer details may be lies, but not the meat of what Madara said.
However, him hating all of Konoha is stupid stupid stupid. There's no reason for it.
Something that IS really awesome, though: Sasuke is almost blind due to spamming his MS so much. He used it too much and now he's paying for it. Kishimoto deserves more credit as a writer as he's giving us delicious writing by making Sasuke awesome...but then Sasuke has to pay for getting lucky, genetically. IMO, that normalizes against Nartuo: Naruto is a genius that works his ass off to near death whereas Sasuke is a genius that had the genetics that made things easy on him.
madara used talk no jutsu on him and he started being his bytch lickitty split, just like when itachi gave his little speech, sasuke started to be an itachi fangirl all over again.
sasuke only listens to uchiha (and wannabe uchiha have a little effect on him: oro/kak). the kid will change his whole outlook on life by a tiny speech from one.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
my beef is that he just didn't get mad at him. at all.madara used talk no jutsu on him and he started being his bytch lickitty split, just like when itachi gave his little speech, sasuke started to be an itachi fangirl all over again.
sasuke only listens to uchiha (and wannabe uchiha have a little effect on him: oro/kak). the kid will change his whole outlook on life by a tiny speech from one.
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Also, it would seem that "talk no jutsu" is a powerful weapon in the Naruto-verse.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Not Amaterasu. I meant the Katon - great fireball jutsu his dad taught him.
I think my homie was making a joke about how Itachi would poke Sasuke's forehead, growing up, and that's how Sasuke learned the great fireball technique.
it's not that funny, it's pretty cheap. cheaper than naruto's multi-shadowclone hack (k maybe not that lol)
itachi poked sasuke his entire upbringing (el oh el), giving the kid root/jonin level skills and refinement to a pre-genin.
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talk no jutsu > rin'nigan > konohagakure (note* talk no jutsu resurrected konoha also.)
Originally posted by psycho gundam
it's not that funny, it's pretty cheap. cheaper than naruto's multi-shadowclone hack (k maybe not that lol)itachi poked sasuke his entire upbringing (el oh el), giving the kid root/jonin level skills and refinement to a pre-genin.
-------------------talk no jutsu > rin'nigan > konohagakure (note* talk no jutsu resurrected konoha also.)
Originally posted by Kento
Bee has never shown his ability against talk no jutsu though. The only two that have are Raikage, and Karui. But those weren't the true talk no jutsu.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Don't dash my hopes yet! However what about Hidan and Kakuzu? They just got flat out defeated with no talk no jutsu used. So do they count?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaKakuzu had to be tricked by Naruto. That means he's so awesome that he's up with the likes of Neji and Zabuza who Naruto realized his talk no jutsu was worthless on, and had to resort to other methods. 😆 Not even Raikage is that awesome as Naruto didn't realize how futile it would be on him.
Don't dash my hopes yet! However what about Hidan and Kakuzu? They just got flat out defeated with no talk no jutsu used. So do they count?
As for Hidan he never met Naruto so he can't count.
They did that in order to make Kakashi look good.(I dont know why) Although disliked by a lot of people, talk no jutsu would have never worked on Orochimaru.
Just wondering though, is there even an actual main villian in Naruto anymore? Pein was redeemed, Itachi was redeemed, Orochimaru's sealed, Danzou's dead, and Madara doesn't gice off a main antagonist vibe.
Originally posted by King KandyZabuza wasn't ever really a villain because he was evil it was for the money anyway. So his change wasn't so much because he had a change of heart but because his lover was killed without him even getting the money. lol
Zabuza wussed out in the end though. He didn't even need the talk no jutsu to turn into a sap.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaNaruto's never really tried. The few times he's met he either never really talked to Oro or Oro made him mad by speaking of Sasuke.
They did that in order to make Kakashi look good.(I dont know why) Although disliked by a lot of people, talk no jutsu would have never worked on Orochimaru.Just wondering though, is there even an actual main villian in Naruto anymore? Pein was redeemed, Itachi was redeemed, Orochimaru's sealed, Danzou's dead, and Madara doesn't gice off a main antagonist vibe.
Sasuke wanting to destroy Konoha for no reason, and Madara wanting to put the whole world under his control after killing Bee and Naruto isn't villain enough? lol
Sasuke has the potential to become the main antagonist but if all he wants to do is destroy Konoha then there is no hope for him. Madara is probably waiting for someone to use talk no jutsu on him although he's a shell of his former self so we don't know for sure if he can anything. Well not on Pein's level until proven otherwise.
Orochimaru making Naruto mad shows that he really could resist talk no jutsu had Naruto tried it on him. Jiraiya and Sarutobi sort of tried but failed to use it.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaWell at one point it was highly possible that Sasuke was just making Madara think they were working on the same goal and had hope for coming back and stopping Madara's plans. But it's getting more and more like Sasuke was lying to Taka instead.
Sasuke has the potential to become the main antagonist but if all he wants to do is destroy Konoha then there is no hope for him. Madara is probably waiting for someone to use talk no jutsu on him although he's a shell of his former self so we don't know for sure if he can anything. Well not on Pein's level until proven otherwise.Orochimaru making Naruto mad shows that he really could resist talk no jutsu had Naruto tried it on him. Jiraiya and Sarutobi sort of tried but failed to use it.
But Jiraiya and Saru aren't Naruto so of course they failed.
IMO Sasuke is the perfect example as to why Konoha wanted to wipe out the Uchiha. Danzou even states that by taking revenge on Konoha, he's pretty much spat on Itachi's grave.
Why does talk no jutsu have to be exclusive to just Naruto? Just saying, that's pretty messed up for everyone else. I also wanted to know why they had Pein redeem himself. He could have been the best villian in the series and he messes it up by falling victim to talk no jutsu.
Because it's Naruto. Nobody else has ever been able to turn somebody like he has. But I just found out the problem against Raikage. There wasn't a battle. He had to beat Neji, Gaara, and Pain in battle while using talk no jutsu for it to work. That's the secret. As for Nagato. He wasn't purely a villain. More misguided, and then on top of that probably had Madara manipulating him like Madara is doing to Sasuke.