The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Kento
Madara is now no longer leading the ninja war. It is Kabuto. lol I thought he wasn't going to follow in Oro's footsteps.

He'll use Itachi to pwn Sasuke. Obviously. 😛

Hmm makes you really wonder how strong Tobirama was..And there are an awful lot of Tobi's running around that manga. Well three but still. Tobirama, Tobi, and then the Tobisomethinganother in the Sand.

Hm I wonder if that remark Kabuto had about Madara going by Madara now is a crack at him not being the real Madara.

Pah, Orochimaru's influence is too strong for the likes of Kabuto.

Puhleaze. Sasuke has EMS, he has no qualms about using it on dead dudes 😛. Unless he's a necrophiliac mmm

I know. Even with water jutsu, he was powerful. Adding Edo Tensei to that is just overkill.
Kishi can't come up with good names 😛.

Not the real Madara? What do you mean?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pah, Orochimaru's influence is too strong for the likes of Kabuto.

Puhleaze. Sasuke has EMS, he has no qualms about using it on dead dudes 😛. Unless he's a necrophiliac mmm

I know. Even with water jutsu, he was powerful. Adding Edo Tensei to that is just overkill.
Kishi can't come up with good names 😛.

Not the real Madara? What do you mean?

EMS won't save him from the beat down he'll get trying to go against a Itachi who won't have any qualms about killing him. After all only one of the Susanno's has the Yata Shield and the Totsuka Sword. lol But yes, we all know Sasuke doesn't care if Itachi is dead or alive he'd still want to be with him.

Water jutsu on par with Kisame at the least if not more, and indestructible soldiers to help in a battle. To bad Edo Tensei isn't something you can do without prep or he'd still be alive.

As in Madara isn't really Madara. Hence the young age, and the never seeing his MS eye. And the collection of eyes. And that comment Madara made to Naruto about his body or whatever when asked what he wants with the demons.

Originally posted by Kento
No, it can't be true.

EMS won't save him from the beat down he'll get trying to go against a Itachi who won't have any qualms about killing him. After all only one of the Susanno's has the Yata Shield and the Totsuka Sword. lol But yes, we all know Sasuke doesn't care if Itachi is dead or alive he'd still want to be with him.

Water jutsu on par with Kisame at the least if not more, and indestructible soldiers to help in a battle. To bad Edo Tensei isn't something you can do without prep or he'd still be alive.

As in Madara isn't really Madara. Hence the young age, and the never seeing his MS eye. And the collection of eyes. And that comment Madara made to Naruto about his body or whatever when asked what he wants with the demons.

But it is.
Only an asexual character can withstand his influence 😛.

Pfft, Itachi's love for Sasuke transcends death and it is >>>> Edo Tensei's ability to make him a killing machine 😛.
As for Sasuke, yeah, you are right. Death cannot get in the way of brotherly luv!

Probably better, at least, in my view it is.
True. It still is a badass technique in a way, and Tobirama being the first documented user of the technique makes him more badass.

Ahh, so you mean Madara isn't really Madara because he isn't as strong as he once was? Also, we don't know if he's young. He had a fairly prominent wrinkle when we saw one side of his face. Also, Kisame knew him as Mizukage, so he's probably been around for a while.

I thought you meant that Tobi/Madara wasn't the actual Madara, but was some impostor pretending to be Madara. Could be true.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
But it is.
Only an asexual character can withstand his influence 😛.

Pfft, Itachi's love for Sasuke transcends death and it is >>>> Edo Tensei's ability to make him a killing machine 😛.
As for Sasuke, yeah, you are right. Death cannot get in the way of brotherly luv!

Probably better, at least, in my view it is.
True. It still is a badass technique in a way, and Tobirama being the first documented user of the technique makes him more badass.

Ahh, so you mean Madara isn't really Madara because he isn't as strong as he once was? Also, we don't know if he's young. He had a fairly prominent wrinkle when we saw one side of his face. Also, Kisame knew him as Mizukage, so he's probably been around for a while.

I thought you meant that Tobi/Madara wasn't the actual Madara, but was some impostor pretending to be Madara. Could be true.

You got me there. Darn. lol

I wonder if it has a time limit...Because what would have stopped Nidai from reviving Shodai? They keep their personalities and all that also so it's not like it would've been different from him being alive still. And they died young.

Nah, I just mean Madara isn't Madara. Kabuto's remark, never seeing his MS as it always goes away from his eye when the MS should be activated with the teleporting when we know Madara's MS and EMS looks like, Kakashi saying he can't confirm it's actually Madara, and we never get to see his face except small area around his eye, and the complete remark as to why he wants the tailed-beast. Then again on the other side we have Madara claiming to be Madara, Kisame saying Madara, I mean Mizukage, and Itachi calling him Madara.

Damn, I was waiting for an awesome battle and Kabuto had the f the whole thing up by ending the chapter with "I didn't come here to fight".

On the 'Madara or not' thing, who else would he be with a Sharingan and space-time jutsu?

Obito?

Originally posted by Q99
On the 'Madara or not' thing, who else would he be with a Sharingan and space-time jutsu?

Obito?

Originally posted by Kento
Are you saying Sasuke's not asexual? 😛

You got me there. Darn. lol

I wonder if it has a time limit...Because what would have stopped Nidai from reviving Shodai? They keep their personalities and all that also so it's not like it would've been different from him being alive still. And they died young.

Nah, I just mean Madara isn't Madara. Kabuto's remark, never seeing his MS as it always goes away from his eye when the MS should be activated with the teleporting when we know Madara's MS and EMS looks like, Kakashi saying he can't confirm it's actually Madara, and we never get to see his face except small area around his eye, and the complete remark as to why he wants the tailed-beast. Then again on the other side we have Madara claiming to be Madara, Kisame saying Madara, I mean Mizukage, and Itachi calling him Madara.

I thought we agreed that he is 😛. Besides, he's already proven he can withstand the might of the pedo-snake 😛.

Well, probably his morality. I mean, it's a kinjutsu in the first place, and he obviously had a great deal of respect for his brother. If I were Nidaime, I wouldn't want to resurrect my brother in that state, even if I wanted to see him again, or even if it was for a fight.

He was defeated by Hashirama, and that wounded him greatly obviously. IMO, he probably lost the EMS in the process, or the Sharingan in one of his eyes. I think I remember him saying his Sharingan is weak or something like that?

As for the teleporting, Madara could have easily learned that without the help of his EMS or MS. He is after all, one of the strongest Uchiha, and has extremely powerful chakra.
While he seems to use his right eye when teleporting and appearing, he can send parts of his body without the eye swirl appearance.

As for his plans, who knows what they truly are. Madara most likely hasn't revealed his true hand IMO. It could something more than just using that Infinite Tsukiyomi.

Originally posted by Kento
Sharingan can be transplanted so he doesn't even have to be Uchiha.But no not Obito.

Oh, so Tobi is someone who offed an Uchiha, possibly Madara, and stole the eye?

Hm, no, wait. Haven't we seen it turned off in the one eye of his? At the least, he doesn't seem to suffer Kakashi's strain.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I thought we agreed that he is 😛. Besides, he's already proven he can withstand the might of the pedo-snake 😛.

Well, probably his morality. I mean, it's a kinjutsu in the first place, and he obviously had a great deal of respect for his brother. If I were Nidaime, I wouldn't want to resurrect my brother in that state, even if I wanted to see him again, or even if it was for a fight.

He was defeated by Hashirama, and that wounded him greatly obviously. IMO, he probably lost the EMS in the process, or the Sharingan in one of his eyes. I think I remember him saying his Sharingan is weak or something like that?

As for the teleporting, Madara could have easily learned that without the help of his EMS or MS. He is after all, one of the strongest Uchiha, and has extremely powerful chakra.
While he seems to use his right eye when teleporting and appearing, he can send parts of his body without the eye swirl appearance.

As for his plans, who knows what they truly are. Madara most likely hasn't revealed his true hand IMO. It could something more than just using that Infinite Tsukiyomi.

This is true. Rest is peace and stuff.

I don't remember haha Just remember Itachi calling him a shell of his former self. Which is probably why he's not done much of anything.

Yea, it's just assumed it's a MS technique but even then it always seems to focus on his sharingan before he does it unless it's in the middle of a fight iirc.

I think his plan is a lot more closer to what he told Naruto than the whole Infinite Tsukiyomi peace thing.

Originally posted by Q99
Oh, so Tobi is someone who offed an Uchiha, possibly Madara, and stole the eye?

Hm, no, wait. Haven't we seen it turned off in the one eye of his? At the least, he doesn't seem to suffer Kakashi's strain.

Not that I remember. All the times I remember seeing his eye up close, and the only eye we ever see is just base sharingan. But not that it matters we never really see Itachi without his sharingan on even when not in a battle except like once I believe.

He is definitely Madara, imo. There really isn't anything indicating otherwise, and everyone who knew him well thought he was 100% definitely Madara... only the people who don't know him are the ones who question it.

I really don't like Madara that much as a villain. He does very little, has an ability primarily used to actually avoid doing anything cool, and lately he appears more often then not just to provide the next installment of "amazing things Rikudou sennin did" speech. If he wasn't on the run from the law he'd probably be writing books about it lol.

It is worth noting Itachi can only keep it on 24/7 due to practice, and implant-sharingan take a lot more power, so a non-Uchiha with an implant shouldn't be able to get to the point of having it constantly-on.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He is definitely Madara, imo. There really isn't anything indicating otherwise, and everyone who knew him well thought he was 100% definitely Madara... only the people who don't know him are the ones who question it.

I really don't like Madara that much as a villain. He does very little, has an ability primarily used to actually avoid doing anything cool, and lately he appears more often then not just to provide the next installment of "amazing things Rikudou sennin did" speech. If he wasn't on the run from the law he'd probably be writing books about it lol.

Originally posted by Kento
There's still something up though. There's a reason his face stays hidden,

because he's using Obito's body!! 😱

Originally posted by Kento
Lol but he may have not turned evil and stuff but he was very much influenced by him. Snake summons, and just that general feel of him was different than usual with Oro inside him.

Maybe that's because we didn't really see a lot of Sasuke prior to when he absorbed Orochimaru.

Sasuke even managed to beat Orochimaru in his own freaking dimension, that's something.

Originally posted by Kento
This is true. Rest is peace and stuff.

Yep, respect for teh dead. It's also like an unwritten law of nature of that the dead shouldn't be "brought back" to life.

Originally posted by Kento
I don't remember haha Just remember Itachi calling him a shell of his former self. Which is probably why he's not done much of anything.

Yea, it's just assumed it's a MS technique but even then it always seems to focus on his sharingan before he does it unless it's in the middle of a fight iirc.

I think his plan is a lot more closer to what he told Naruto than the whole Infinite Tsukiyomi peace thing.

Who knows. Two people say he's Madara so he's probably actually Madara. Just somethings are a bit weird.

True. I don't know though, I seem to remember Madara saying his eyes weren't as strong as they were, or maybe he was talking about himself instead of his eyes. Dunno.

I don't think the two goals he mentioned could be mutually exclusive.
Perhaps he thinks that it should have been the Elder Brother who received the Sage's blessing; so he may view the acquisition of the Juubi's power as becoming 'complete'...in addition to regaining his lost power.

Well, that's probably just a natural preference I guess, seeing as he can presumably send parts of his body to other dimensions.
He could just as easily form the swirls around his crotch 😛.
Is it a highly advanced form of Kamui though?

Originally posted by Kento
Not that I remember. All the times I remember seeing his eye up close, and the only eye we ever see is just base sharingan. But not that it matters we never really see Itachi without his sharingan on even when not in a battle except like once I believe.

True. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see what Kishi does. That's really all there is to it.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Maybe that's because we didn't really see a lot of Sasuke prior to when he absorbed Orochimaru.

Sasuke even managed to beat Orochimaru in his own freaking dimension, that's something.

Pft that's just cause of his Sharingan hax and Oro gets weaker in it's presence. He was distracted by thoughts of Itachi, the one he really wanted also.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Well, that's probably just a natural preference I guess, seeing as he can presumably send parts of his body to other dimensions.
He could just as easily form the swirls around his crotch 😛.
Is it a highly advanced form of Kamui though?

i dont know how many people have read the new chapter, so all i will say is, things are getting really interesting...

Might start getting some cool battles from minor characters. Which is always good. With all this Sasuke or Naruto fighting that has been going on.

Originally posted by Kento

Pft that's just cause of his Sharingan hax and Oro gets weaker in it's presence.

That and Orochimaru was sick. I'm not sure if he could've pulled it off if Oro was at full power.

Still impressive.

Nagato, Diedara, Sasori and Itachi

but who was the other guy?