Eh, but he's still key in those and couldn't have done it without overcoming his own weakness, and one of the central differences between Naruto's and Sasuke's methods is Naruto gains strength from gaining ties while Sasuke gains strength from breaking them.
It is thematic for this to be a group effort.
Originally posted by King Kandy😬 That's the thing though. Naruto had almost taken Kyuubi's chakra, and won before Kushina came along. Just the whole hatred thing stopped him, which Naruto being...well Naruto should've been able to overcome without the need for Kushina to come. Kushina was just a plot device to tell the story of 16 years ago, and to give Naruto random Sage power up instead of just letting Naruto get Kyuubi chakra like it should've been..
That's the thing. He was carried by others in that instance because without their help he simply could not have beaten the Kyuubi. Even though he now controls the Kyuubi it's a hollow victory to me because he never displayed actual dominance over it.
Originally posted by Kentoi think it does what you say, and shows just how pissed off/powerful the kyuubi is.
😬 That's the thing though. Naruto had almost taken Kyuubi's chakra, and won before Kushina came along. Just the whole hatred thing stopped him, which Naruto being...well Naruto should've been able to overcome without the need for Kushina to come. Kushina was just a plot device to tell the story of 16 years ago, and to give Naruto random Sage power up instead of just letting Naruto get Kyuubi chakra like it should've been..
Originally posted by Kento
😬 That's the thing though. Naruto had almost taken Kyuubi's chakra, and won before Kushina came along. Just the whole hatred thing stopped him, which Naruto being...well Naruto should've been able to overcome without the need for Kushina to come. Kushina was just a plot device to tell the story of 16 years ago, and to give Naruto random Sage power up instead of just letting Naruto get Kyuubi chakra like it should've been..
This is Kishi.
This is the guy who gave Naruto a power up (or something) by having him deep throat a ****ing crow.
This is the guy that gave Sasuke a power up because someone tapped his ****ing forehead.
Kishi really, really ****ing sucks at this whole "power up" thing.
Non stop power ups is the classic sign when a shounen author becames lazy. There are ton of mangas where main characters became stronger through gaining new techniques, becoming more skilled through training, etc.
Sudden power jumps are like ¨I can't write a original explanation for my character becoming stronger... so suck it".
Maybe Kubo is rubbing off on Kishi. That would explain alot of this in Naruto as of late. Maybe Oda will be next to follow Kubo's lead.
Naruto and Sasuke both get help in ridiculous but different ways. On the bright side, at least Naruto worked for his summoning jutsu. Where in the hell did Sasuke get a hawk summoning?
Originally posted by King KandyBut there is also that point where he had to face it alone, and was still able to take it down.
maybe he could have, but he didn't. And even under that interpretation, Killer Bee saved him from dying several times, it wasn't just his mother.
Originally posted by King Kandy
He was handed unlimited chakra. I think that > anything anyone else has got.
It's not unlimited. We know that because Naruto has trained to such a point of exhaustion that he nearly died...many many many times.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I still don't think those justify the Yellow Flash technique Naruto used. Then again we're going off of Bee's word who, as you stated, hasn't seen Naruto's speed. Maybe it isn't the Yellow Flash tech but something similar to his Sage mode amp.If it was Minato's technique, then Naruto has pretty much become the unofficial fastest character in the series; this is due to not only having one of the best speed technique but also not having the drawback of having to use a kunai.
How did Sasuke work for the curse-seal again?
At this point, the original Sennin is the only one that would be stronger than Naruto at this point.(can't remember his name)
But Naruto didn't use the YellowFlash techinique...he just went really fast. I think you're confusion Bee's use of "Yellow-Flash" nickname for an actual technique. Bee was commenting on how fast Naruto was, as compared to Minato...but not saying Naruto was use FTG.
And you're right: Sasuke did NOT work for his curse seal. In fact, he asked for it. hahahaha But it was a painful transistion.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It's not unlimited. We know that because Naruto has trained to such a point of exhaustion that he nearly died...many many many times.
Oh wait, that just happened last issue and he hasn't trained since. So you are just wrong, completely.
Okay to change the subject.
Assign new jutsus to your favorite characters
ok I know this is kind of easy for some folks. but for the rest I wanna hear what jutsu's you would assign to your favorite character.
Note: it can only be a variation or jutsu similar to there fighting style so no Susanoo for Gai or Lee crap.
Tsunade:Tsunade fuses with Katsuyu through the latter's melding ability. She gains a slug-like physical appearance but is now an invertebrae and cannot be easily hurt, much like how Katsuyu is nearly invincible. She can now spit acid from her mouth and her stamina has increased exponentially. She also has raiton shroud. And some sort of AOE Healing tech that heals her own wound by the amount of damage she deals with her opponents.
Sasuke: More raiton jutsu, enhanced taijutsu, speed and reactions and ninjutsu aka raiton shroud, some molecular manipulation with EMS and has the abilites to use eletricity by absorbing nature or people with eletrons. Oh and some degree of super strength and stamina powered by his own Sharingan.
Hinata: Speed, and lots of it. More striking speed, more movement speed, more reaction timing speed. The Kaiten and the Vaccum Palm combine with her twin lion fist. Pretty much everything from the Hyuuga clan and a Futton/Water elemental affinity plus more stamina.
Sasuke: EMS - One of his new abilities is the power to shut down or cancel any jutsu/amp just by looking at it...😐
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Kakashi - Does not need any new jutsu. He just needs more chakra, or some sort of amp like a Raiton shroud.
Gaara - Perhaps more novel and smarter uses of Sand. He's very versatile, and frankly, does not need new jutsu.
Kisame - Uber enough as he is.
The rest of my favourites are technically dead. (Itachi/Deidara/Pedomaru /Asuma/Jiraiya)