The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by psycho gundam
chibaku tensei.....

sword of totsuka.....

high level puppetry .....

all those techs might work, but they all belong to team madara/kabuto anyway so... they will be used to kill the very alive shinobi allegiance lol

again, expect a plot loss to stop the overwhelming odds

You forget that the Shinobi alliance(Naruto) has the most power weapon of all that can instantly wipe out Madara and his forces: MCPIS

Or they could get Onoki to throw an island sized turtle at them: Tsunade could also show some senju prowless and not be the weakest link of the Kage forces.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi brings up another weakness that ET has which we do not currently know about, but I don't think vaporizing them entirely would work.
The two Hokages have had their arm and leg blown off, and it just reformed. Personally, I'd think that new dirt/ash/mud would just surround the vessel if the original dirt/ash/mud was dispersed/destroyed.

They weren't blown off with a blast that is comparable to a nuke, however.

Think of it as being the difference between a C4 detonation and a nuclear blast.

Sure, the C4 will change some of the blasted material into carbon, but most of it remains as the same material. Nuclear blast it, however, and most of it vaporizes into other elements and the rest vaps as it's own element.

Pulling chunks of the same material back works, but pulling molecules back doesn't seem like it's a feasible outcome.

Originally posted by dadudemon
They weren't blown off with a blast that is comparable to a nuke, however.

Think of it as being the difference between a C4 detonation and a nuclear blast.

Sure, the C4 will change some of the blasted material into carbon, but most of it remains as the same material. Nuclear blast it, however, and most of it vaporizes into other elements and the rest vaps as it's own element.

Pulling chunks of the same material back works, but pulling molecules back doesn't seem like it's a feasible outcome.

Except all the Bijuu blasts we've seen couldn't even vaporize a ninja. The three people to have been hit by a Biju Blast were not vaporized at all.

Suigetsu - Took one point-blank, but wasn't even vaporized; and water is prone to getting dispersed.

Deva Path - Boasts no enhanced durability that we know of (in the manga at least...fool got pounded on like a nail in the anime and was alright), and was in fact taken out by a Rasengan. Yet he was right next to 6T Naruto when it pulled off the attack, and the damage Deva suffered amounted to some scorch marks and part of his garments being destroyed.

Orochimaru - Even though he used the Rashomon to block the blast, he still got hit by part of it. He just ended up looking like a douche, instead of being vaporized. He said he would have surely died if he got hit by the full blast, but whether it would have vaped him or not is unknown.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Except all the Bijuu blasts we've seen couldn't even vaporize a ninja. The three people to have been hit by a Biju Blast were not vaporized at all.

Wah?

The only example we have is Suigetsu and he was using uber water shield shtuff and he was almost completely destroyed. Could barely pull himself together. Had that occured outside of a lake, he would have been vaped completely with no possible way of coming back.

The others weren't directly hit.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Suigetsu - Took one point-blank, but wasn't even vaporized; and water is prone to getting dispersed.

Right, is if Suigetsu even counts as the same thing as a an ressurrected piece of dirt. 😬

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Deva Path - Boasts no enhanced durability that we know of (in the manga at least...fool got pounded on like a nail in the anime and was alright), and was in fact taken out by a Rasengan. Yet he was right next to 6T Naruto when it pulled off the attack, and the damage Deva suffered amounted to some scorch marks and part of his garments being destroyed.

I do not see any evidence at all that Deva Path was directly hit by the blast.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Orochimaru - Even though he used the Rashomon to block the blast, he still got hit by part of it. He just ended up looking like a douche, instead of being vaporized. He said he would have surely died if he got hit by the full blast, but whether it would have vaped him or not is unknown.

Yeah, the guy using the ultimate defense (only the Susano'o can boast a higher defense) barely got touched by the blast.

So, in other words, nothing you provided shows directly being blasted by a bijuu.

Suigetsu absorbed most of it with the lake water.

Deva Path wasn't directly hit by the blast.

Orochimaru protected himself with the second strongest defense in the series.

But let's bring this back to something a tad bit more applicable:

Dirt.

Dirt seems to be vaped just fine by any Bijuu blast.

The end.

I won't comment on this subject anymore because I do not want another 3 page discussion.

Deva Path and Oro all have high durability, actually.

hahaha yea i totally forgot that was a guy! i just remembered!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wah?

The only example we have is Suigetsu and he was using uber water shield shtuff and he was almost completely destroyed. Could barely pull himself together.

No, he had turned himself into water and collected extra water, the durability of which is unknown. Could have been more durable than Sasuke's Susano'o, or it could have had about as much durability as Suigetsu's regular form.
The Hachibi's blast was also composed of electricity as well, and I'm sure Suigetsu liked electricity so much, he would take it with a smile and a hug. 😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
Had that occured outside of a lake, he would have been vaped completely with no possible way of coming back.

Proof plox.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Right, is if Suigetsu even counts as the same thing as a an ressurrected piece of dirt. 😬

No, but Water should be vaped and/or dispersed far better than compressed dirt and mud.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do not see any evidence at all that Deva Path was directly hit by the blast.

You mean other than the fact that he was a few feet away from Naruto when Naruto was building up the blast, and wasn't shown escaping in any way? Occam's razor would suggest he got hit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, the guy using the ultimate defense (only the Susano'o can boast a higher defense) barely got touched by the blast.

Nope. Gaara likely has a much better defense than the Rashomon, going by what we've seen.
Blocking C3 completely, which would have destroyed his village, is more impressive than semi-blocking Naruto's blast.

Oro isn't much of a case for me here, since he admitted he would die and all, but him being vaped is completely unknown.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Deva Path wasn't directly hit by the blast.

Uhh, yes he was. At the very least, he was in the center of explosion radius.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But let's bring this back to something a tad bit more applicable:

Dirt.

Dirt seems to be vaped just fine by any Bijuu blast.

Not dirt, mud and ash that has been compressed together, with more being used to reform the ninjas in case the original is destroyed. kruemelmonsteryn0

Originally posted by dadudemon
I won't comment on this subject anymore because I do not want another 3 page discussion.

You know you love them.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Deva Path and Oro all have high durability, actually.

Oro likely has a considerably higher level of durability.

Deva got taken out by a Rasengan, which while powerful in its own right, should not compare to an explosion of the magnitude that he had tanked earlier...PIS? 313

Deva was taking hits from Sage Mode Naruto, possibly the most physically powerful character in the series, assuming that Onoki's feat is not strength.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No, he had turned himself into water and collected extra water, the durability of which is unknown. Could have been more durable than Sasuke's Susano'o, or it could have had about as much durability as Suigetsu's regular form.
The Hachibi's blast was also composed of electricity as well, and I'm sure Suigetsu liked electricity so much, he would take it with a smile and a hug. 😐

Proof plox.

No, but Water should be vaped and/or dispersed far better than compressed dirt and mud.

You mean other than the fact that he was a few feet away from Naruto when Naruto was building up the blast, and wasn't shown escaping in any way? Occam's razor would suggest he got hit.

Nope. Gaara likely has a much better defense than the Rashomon, going by what we've seen.
Blocking C3 completely, which would have destroyed his village, is more impressive than semi-blocking Naruto's blast.

Oro isn't much of a case for me here, since he admitted he would die and all, but him being vaped is completely unknown.

Uhh, yes he was. At the very least, he was in the center of explosion radius.

Not dirt, mud and ash that has been compressed together, with more being used to reform the ninjas in case the original is destroyed. kruemelmonsteryn0

You know you love them.

Oro likely has a considerably higher level of durability.

Deva got taken out by a Rasengan, which while powerful in its own right, should not compare to an explosion of the magnitude that he had tanked earlier...PIS? 313

*Doesn't read*

You're absolutely right.

Now we both can move on and I'll continue believing that a bijuu blast is more than enough to vaporize a very small amount of living mud and you continue believing it won't.

poor lee. even naruto is biting
his shit

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Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Oro likely has a considerably higher level of durability.

Deva got taken out by a Rasengan, which while powerful in its own right, should not compare to an explosion of the magnitude that he had tanked earlier...PIS? 313

Thats probably because Negato was running dangerously low on Chakra by that point due to Deva Path using Chibaku Tensei as well as several Shinra Tensei within a relatively short period of time.

Negato couldn't risk giving Deva any more Chakra

Originally posted by dadudemon
*Doesn't read*

You're absolutely right.

Now we both can move on and I'll continue believing that a bijuu blast is more than enough to vaporize a very small amount of living mud and you continue believing it won't.

Damn you...making me type all that shit up. uhuh

Works for me. Best thing to do is to simply wait and see if the Hachibi actually uses one of its chakra blasts against an ET'd ninja.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Thats probably because Negato was running dangerously low on Chakra by that point due to Deva Path using Chibaku Tensei as well as several Shinra Tensei within a relatively short period of time.

Negato couldn't risk giving Deva any more Chakra

I doubt he'd simply stop giving chakra to his favourite and most powerful Path, even if he was low on chakra.

Besides, if he didn't send any chakra to Deva, Deva would stop functioning.

Meh, it was likely just PIS anyway.

deva was never hit by the menacing ball. He used Bansho Tennin to hit six tails and make the ball miss.

I'll point out rasengans are extremely concentrated, while explosions can be much more diffuse. Even if the total power of an explosion is great, it's only the bit that hits you that you need to worry about.

Originally posted by King Kandy
deva was never hit by the menacing ball. He used Bansho Tennin to hit six tails and make the ball miss.

The ball never hit him, but it still exploded, just like other menacing balls made by the Kyuubi and the Hachibi, and Deva was in the center of the explosion.

Originally posted by Q99
I'll point out rasengans are extremely concentrated, while explosions can be much more diffuse. Even if the total power of an explosion is great, it's only the bit that hits you that you need to worry about.

Going by the damage the explosion did, I'd wager even the bit that hit Deva was far more powerful than a standard Rasengan with slightly more power (owing to the extra speed Naruto had while hitting him). It's concentrated, but due to its nature, it's like a powerful punch that grinds. I doubt such a thing should have KO'd something that is powered by chakra alone.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Damn you...making me type all that shit up. uhuh

Works for me. Best thing to do is to simply wait and see if the Hachibi actually uses one of its chakra blasts against an ET'd ninja.

Well, honestly, I value our internet based friendship more than I do about proving someone wrong on the internets. I figured that we would get no where since my premise is unprovable until it actually happens.

Also, I told you I wouldn't respond! 😆 It's your fault you typed it. 313

the rasengan drills into you, getting hit is bad news

it mushes up your insides too

Hah, a short joke omake a fanfic writer made:

OMAKE: BORING

Most people didn't know it, but using Tsukiyomi was boring. Yeah, using an illusion to make someone suffer unspeakable torments for three days was pretty kick-ass, but it got old awful quick. And since Itachi had to be right there, controlling everything, it felt like three days for him, too. That's why using the eye was dangerous... psychosomatic sleep exhaustion.

Take right now, for example.

"For the next 72 hours, I will pierce your flesh with this katana," he'd said. It'd been the coolest thing he'd gotten to say, like, all week.

Shit. It had only been 10 minutes, and Itachi was already bored.

Only 71 hours and 49 minutes left, now. Itachi held back a sigh.

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He could just will some mindless clone to do it and have some awesome lucid dreaming for himself.