sasuke will gain it after taking out madara's eyes. either that or madara will use him in his machine thingie before he can take his eyes. and what the FRIG does the rinnegan do and where does it stand in comparison to the ultimake sharingan beyodn the mangekyo??? kishi made such a huge deal out of the rinnegan, yet, i think most of the ideas of what power to be given by a doujutsu have run out in my oppinion, so itll probably be sumthing not so cool.
Yea I'm still not seeing Sasuke stealing anybodies eyes. It just doesn't seem like something he'd do and I'm not sure why I can't picture him doing it.
And yea Jiraiya was so scared of the Rinnengan and said it was the most powerful yet...compared to the Sharingan it's not. It allows you to control bodies, and be able to see everywhere sure but it's not done anything to earn it the best eye jutsu to me.
Originally posted by leonheartmmonly five of the element styles are currently know.
sasuke will gain it after taking out madara's eyes. either that or madara will use him in his machine thingie before he can take his eyes. and what the FRIG does the rinnegan do and where does it stand in comparison to the ultimake sharingan beyodn the mangekyo??? kishi made such a huge deal out of the rinnegan, yet, i think most of the ideas of what power to be given by a doujutsu have run out in my oppinion, so itll probably be sumthing not so cool.
with lighting being the fifth style after:earth, fire, water, and wind it is most likely aether that is the sixth.
the originator of the rinnega'n apparently didn't announce the sixth style or simply didn't use it cause stories should have be made of it's name or power. thats (imo) why they call pain a god because aether is omniscience and reality warping/matter creation plus more godly acts.
so yeah aether is my prediction. the rinniga'n is the shit, you can basically make up jutsu or master existing ones if you want to.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
no it is cool, all powerful jutsu are based on the elements of classic myth.only five of the element styles are currently know.
with lighting being the fifth style after:earth, fire, water, and wind it is most likely AETHER that is the sixth.the originator of the rinnega'n apparently didn't announce the sixth style or simply didn't use it cause stories should have be made of it's name or power.
thats (imo) why they call pain a god because aether is omniscience and reality warping/matter creation plus more godly acts.
so yeah aether is my prediction. the rinniga'n is the shit, you can basically make up jutsu or master existing ones if you want to.
It was said it was like the original eye technique that all others came from but that doesn't make it the most powerful. From what we seen of it in his fight I would still place MS above it and madara's MS techniques as well but maybe we didn't see it's full potential. The one and only reason MS is above it is because all Itachi had to do was point his finger to put them in genjutsu and presumably Tsukyomi, how can any one beat that? Yes he is dead but just using him as an example.
it did seem like jiraya found out the secret behind pain, perhaps it is also the secret behind the rinnegan. also, pain did say that he wudnt have been able to beat jiraya if jiraya knew the secret beforehand. and rinnegan was the most revered out of the three eye techniques. ie. rinnegan, shaaringan and byaakugen. so there is no mention of comparison between the mangekyo sharingan or the sharingan based doujutsu beyond the mangekyo sharingan.
Originally posted by WO PolaskiWell when it comes to the true powers of the rinnengan I'm sure everybody knows nothing. There really isn't anything but legends about it. Obviously nobody alive was around to see it if it supposedly created all the jutsus and what not and stories get changed and that's had a long time to get changed. lol.
No. He's calling him misinformed. Or ignorant if you will. 🙂
@psycho_gundam - Well one of the reasons Pein follows Madara is that Madara created Akatsuki probably long before Pein was even born. Sure who is the most powerful is probably Madara but that's not the reason he's in charge.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
but the only weird thing(and also in kento's defense) pain fallows the orders of tobi/madara uchiha for some reason.this is maybe evidence that the mangekyo is more powerful or on the other hand he simply is a loyal ally and respects the plans of madara.
it's hard to say.
...I was thinking that the Rinnigan has a weakness that Jaraiya figured out. A weakness that Madara was aware of just because Madara is a badass like that which would explain why he has that loyalty you descibe.
I was also thinking that the Sharingan is more powerful. Didn't the Sharingan come from Byakugan?
Also...note that the Mangekyo Sharingan's appearance is differently shaped for each user. (I found this part interesting...look up screen shots if you don't believe me...they are ALL different.)
Also, don't forget the Itachi said that Madara is just shell of his former self...so he may not be as strong as we think. What is the forth eye technique of the Sharingan? Teleportation?
We have Sharingan...Mangekyo Sharingan...the imortal or eternal Mangekyo Sharingan...and a forth eye technique that comes with the eternal version.
We have speculation from the Manga that it is a time-space manipulation (teleportation of some sort)...but IS there something beyond the Forth eye technique?
We still don't know too much about the forth technique so I wonder what in the hell the fifth one could be.
a few things. itachi mentioned that the final secret behing the ultimate sharingan was immortality{indirectly implied as he called madara an incredible immmortal} and controlling the kyuubi and controlling it like a pet that only madara discovered{and we know that jiraya suspects that madara was teh only one who actually had the power to summon the kyuubi}. but we also know that madara is a shell of his former self and needed to use the sasuke{who would grow wings and fly like an eagle as opposed to become a snake} in some sort of wierd machine to regain the power of uchiha madara{apparently his own power}. he also has teleportation and phasing jutsus beyond the third hokage. but there are discrepancies, i think it mentioned in a manga that the third hokage while following itachi after he had slaughtered his clan witnessed the amaterasu and called it "madara's" jutsu{hope im not remembering a fake}. yet how can that be seeing as each mangekyo has shown different abilitied. also, on a side note, kakashi's space warping is a bit like madara{who we still dont know uses the technicue with or without the use of his sharingan}. there is also the fact that madara was BEATEN by the first hokage{when he left konohakagura and created akatsuki} as well as the 4th hokage{when he attacked konoha with the kyuubi}, and yet how is that possible if he is even close to the strongest. and why did he attack konoha to begin with along with the kyuubi attacking other villages unless there was sumthing there he needed? and still, the conditions necessary for the mangekyo havent been established{and killing the friend obviously isnt the only one}. and do remember that if madara truly is the most powerful, then whatever he is trying to acheive is probably bigger/stronger than the country destroying jutsu that pain is trying to create. and he even discussed the MACHINE with pain. and his tone with pain was one of authority, not cooperation.
as for pain goes, a few facts about him and the rinnegan{how much is based off the rinnegan, we dont know}
he is of the fuuma clan {where the giant fuuma shurikens and stuff come fron}
he is compatible with all elemental jutsu
he went into a berserk fit as a kid and sumhow easily murdered a chuunin in war without remembering anything and it is strongly implied that it was connected with his rinnegan's ability.
he has multiple bodies who share a collective ming and each have special abilities and are apparently immortal.{since the rinnegan is representative of the six lower worlds, it wud make sense that this ability is connected with the rinnegan}. and these bodies were apparently all people jiraya had beaten in the past
he was thought by jiraya to be the prophesized saviour due to his rinnegan as the posessor of the rinnegan was said to hold the power to save or destroy the earth. but he later called naruto the true destined kid{which begs the question, does naruto have the rinnegan}
yahiko, the friend of pain's{nagato} whose body he posesses looks a lot like both the fourth and naruto due to his face and blonde hair so maybe there is a relation there.
pain can create clones of super powerful people with 30% of their chakra and they can even use any special techniques or kekai genkai{when fake itachi used his sharingan although he cudnt use his mangekyo}
he casts th 9 illusionary dragon technique which seals bijuu.{the only other sealing technique known of this caliber is the 4th's shiki fuujin. although that was probably stronger since pain makes clear that the kyuuubi has to be sealed last and the sealing goes on for two days}
he is creating a jutsu able to destroy entire shinobi countries in one go and be reused with the bijuu.
he can telepathically contact any akatsuki.
the original rinnegan user rikodoh created the shinobi world and gave birth to jutsus.
now this isnt even close to what his true abilities are as they havent been completely revealed. but even this is a lot, and if madara is the superior, then he must be really sumthing. just saying, dont underestimated pain.
Doesn't his body of Yahiko have brown hair?
Every time is has shown Tobi teleport he's had his sharingan on so who knows maybe it is connected. I always thought the final secret he unlocked was to control Kyuubi.
For some reason I still think Pein is stronger than Tobi while Tobi just has his immortality and his spacial warp jutsu that makes attacking him pretty much useless. He just created the Akatsuki and that is why he leads. I mean if he has become weaker than he was when loosing to Shodaime and Pein was able to kill Jiraiya who was using a mode that made him even stronger says something to me.