The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by danteiscool1,600 pages

well, Gaara's really been showing improvement since Shukaku got extracted from him. now that the final revived kage is out of the way, I wonder what the alliance will do next.

I dunno. Gaara is suing it up in my opinion. Looking back, he's just beaten 3 Kage. 1 by himself in like 3 seconds, the others he had help.

I'm starting to think Jokey Boy is the real name of the attack. Just look at it.


Where? I don't remember it.

Moving gold to block for him? Like he defended against Gaara's sand rain.

And wouldn't that just make him an easy target?

It'd mean attacks'd have to come from below, and he could thus defend himself easier.


Indeed. But, since it was Mizukage's idea for Gaara to use his sand like that, I can't see it helping much. And then there is the matter of Jokey Boy. Which I don't think he could beat.

Jokey Boy was beaten via the method of containing it with gold, which then melted, locking it up.

4th doesn't even have to do something *special*, his jutsu is it's natural weakness 🙂

Originally posted by Q99
Moving gold to block for him? Like he defended against Gaara's sand rain.

It'd mean attacks'd have to come from below, and he could thus defend himself easier.

Jokey Boy was beaten via the method of containing it with gold, which then melted, locking it up.

4th doesn't even have to do something *special*, his jutsu is it's natural weakness 🙂

I meant auto defense. I know he can defend with it consciously.

Unless he jumps up there. Or attacks from a distance. He can make clones after all.

Nope. Jokey Boy was beaten by a combination of the gold and the sand that was cooled down by the hail. Had all these factors not contributed. Jokey Boy likely would have blown. In fact, it did. A little anyway. 😛

He still needs to figure out how the techniques work in order to stop it. Jokey Boy can dodge the gold all day after all. If it even gets to that point. 😛

And unlike his kid....the 4th Kazekage doesn't have an auto-shield.

You know I wonder how exactly a battle between Mu and the 2nd Mizukage went...you know before the whole killing each other thing.

It was invisible. And then it involved a lot of explosions.

Invisible explosions?

But really...how would either one find the other. Muu would be dealing with a mirage while Mizukage would be dealing with a stealth bomber of sorts.

My guess is Mu would be tricked by the mirage and thus keep aiming at it instead of the Kyoka, who could in turn attack from a distance based on where Mu's attacks are coming from. Mu would figure this out, turn visible and wait for Mizukage to strike, taking the hit. After that, he can attack where the Clam was. Sure, he'd get damaged, but to stop that move would be worth it.

After that, Mu can turn invisible. Then Mizukage plays the defense, forcing him to use Jokey Boy. Mu, thinking that is the real Mizukage, keeps trying to kill it but it's too fast. It then runs every where and begins nuking the area. Mu, upon sensing the Mizukage hiding, will find Kyoka and corner him. Jokey Boy shows up, begins to explode. Mu tries to stop it with the Dust technique. Big explosion, both are caught up in it.

Okay...but if Mu were to take out the clam when they were alive....how would the Mizukage be able to summon it; due to the clam being dead and all.

You know...it's funny how these two don't get a memorial battle site..or crater but Hashirama and Madara get a friggin waterfall.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I meant auto defense. I know he can defend with it consciously.

Yea, but I said active 🙂 All he really needs is active, 98% of ninja do just fine with active.

Unless he jumps up there. Or attacks from a distance. He can make clones after all.

Attacking from a distance or jumping up both gives him room to defend. Distance gives warning time and all that.

Nope. Jokey Boy was beaten by a combination of the gold and the sand that was cooled down by the hail. Had all these factors not contributed. Jokey Boy likely would have blown. In fact, it did. A little anyway. 😛

The hail was part of Mizukage's jutsu so it'd be there anyway, and it'd cool the gold just as well even if sand wasn't there.


He still needs to figure out how the techniques work in order to stop it. Jokey Boy can dodge the gold all day after all. If it even gets to that point. 😛

Spread the gold out just like Gaara does with sand. Once he figures out it's a mirage, which shouldn't take too long, it's pretty obvious once one attacks both Mizukage and the clam, he's got tools to do it.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Indeed, speedsters shouldn't be having too difficult a problem. And it would depend on the explosion. C3 and C4 could maybe take it out, but the others would be weaker. Gaara's sand is also faster than those bombs. 😛

I dunno.

Don't know about C4, but C3 would definitely work. C2 too IMO.
It's faster than Deidara's bombs? I don't remember this.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, but I said active 🙂 All he really needs is active, 98% of ninja do just fine with active.

Attacking from a distance or jumping up both gives him room to defend. Distance gives warning time and all that.

The hail was part of Mizukage's jutsu so it'd be there anyway, and it'd cool the gold just as well even if sand wasn't there.

Spread the gold out just like Gaara does with sand. Once he figures out it's a mirage, which shouldn't take too long, it's pretty obvious once one attacks both Mizukage and the clam, he's got tools to do it.

Active against an invisible enemy? Yeah, he could cover himself in a cocoon of gold but it would make it hard to fight. And we've never seen him use it that way anyway.

Defend against something he can't see?

He has not shown himself to be that smart. 😛

Long enough for Invizukage to walk up to him and shoot him through the skull.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Don't know about C4, but C3 would definitely work. C2 too IMO.
It's faster than Deidara's bombs? I don't remember this.

C2 has a lot but it's slow.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v28/c249/15.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v28/c249/16.html

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

C2 has a lot but it's slow.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v28/c249/15.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v28/c249/16.html

Slower than his specially made sand. Normal sand is slower than the auto-guard sand. Gaara also reacts before Deidara explodes it.

Though that C3 blocking feat seems to be stupid. Eh, if Gaara's sand can match up to Deidara's explosions, I don't see why Sasuke asspulling his escape is PIS. vin

So now Jokey Boy > Explosions >= Sand???


Active against an invisible enemy? Yeah, he could cover himself in a cocoon of gold but it would make it hard to fight. And we've never seen him use it that way anyway.

If he's above the mirage, the water gun won't be invisible. And remember, he has the remote eye jutsu like Gaara does.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
So now Jokey Boy > Explosions >= Sand???

Jokey Boy> Sand> Explosions. 😛

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v58/c557/14.html

That image helps illustrate it.

Originally posted by Q99
If he's above the mirage, the water gun won't be invisible. And remember, he has the remote eye jutsu like Gaara does.

How would he now that he'd need to float in the air?

Also, I've never actually seen him float.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Jokey Boy> Sand> Explosions. 😛

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v58/c557/14.html

That image helps illustrate it.

Nah, higher level explosions > Sand.
Still, Jokey Boy seems about Sasuke level fast, who dodged Explosions. awesome

The Sand blocked a higher level explosion. 😮
Indeed.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
You know...it's funny how these two don't get a memorial battle site..or crater but Hashirama and Madara get a friggin waterfall.

If you think about how powerful Madara and Hashish were, they were the strongest ninja from the two strongest clans.

A whole head and shoulders above the rest. Their fight must have been the stuff of legends (wait, it literally was. lol)

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
The Sand blocked a higher level explosion. 😮
Indeed.

Deidara was using it as a distraction.
Actually, scratch that. Sasuke's faster. awesome

Originally posted by dadudemon
A whole head and shoulders above the rest. Their fight must have been the stuff of legends (wait, it literally was. lol)

Including Minato 313

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Deidara was using it as a distraction.
Actually, scratch that. Sasuke's faster. awesome

It was still blocked. In fact, that was actually C3's only showing.
Probably.