Originally posted by Q99
Ratings- one, think I should put Izuna up at S+ for being as strong as MS Madara?Two, I'm thinking of putting complete Susano'o Sasuke (that is, not EMS, but Danzo fight Sasuke), at S+. Sure, it was only for the length of a single fight, but it was notably stronger than his incomplete mode, and it was noted in the anime versus forum that like that he'd beat almost all of the Akatsuki for the majority.
We don't know how strong MS Madara was.
Still, EMS Madara did not display anything with the EMS itself to suggest that the EMS was a complete step above the MS. Madara had high speed, taijutsu skills, and that uber Fire tech, which would put him in S itself. Add the MS & Susano'o to all that, and you get someone who should be in S+.
Yes. Might as well make it MS/EMS Sasuke since it seems like EMS Sasuke will be in S+ if he is to be Naruto's equal. In addition, right before making Kakashi shit his pants, he gained the final layer of Susano'o's armor, and got the Amaterasu arrows.