Originally posted by Q99
No. Should that be A (plain) maybe?Fuguki with Samehada was killed by Kisame without, so A+ fits him with it.
Hm, similarly, should swordless Mangetsu be A+?
Dunno. A seems more than fine, but I'd be okay with A- as well. All we know of are those needles.
Or he was killed by a sneak attack. We don't really whether Kisame killed him with a sneak attack or outright fought him and killed him.
Yep. Same as Suigetsu.
Originally posted by Q99
How about C? He's on A's bodyguards, but he's youngish and hasn't been in a war before.
He is a support-type character, but a very good one at that.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Gaara and Haku. 😛But I'll my personal opinions later. Give others a chance to throw their opinions out there.
On a side note DP, are you Madara or Tobi? mmm
Nada on Haku. Gaara I could see, but he was doing some pretty crazy shit during SR. Still, he is a good two ranks above One Tailed Naruto, and CS2 Sasuke, who were also supposed to be crazy powerful by Part 1 standards mmm
Technically, I'm both. I have Multiple Personality Disorder, and my Tobi personality was sealed into a construct I created when I was close to death.
kruemelmonsteryn0
How about Shikaku? We know he's a massive genius, but his battle jutsu don't seem particularly uber without his partners. He could have his commander rank purely on brains, as it seems to be a battle-planner position, and it's the same rank as his InoShikaCho partners.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He is a support-type character, but a very good one at that.
Yea, but any A is very good, even an A-.
Still, he is a good two ranks above One Tailed Naruto, and CS2 Sasuke, who were also supposed to be crazy powerful by Part 1 standards mmm[/B]
Yea, but I look at people in the As that could handle his sand tsunami, and they're mostly the A and A+s.
Kakashi from the Gaiden might be enough to classify as A-. He was decently skilled as he did become a jonin at the time and was ablle to make his own jutsu. And at the end he did get his sharingan, making the jutsu possible to be used effectively.
Baki has fewer feats going for him than Dodai for example and seems to be a rather dull ninja. Not bad certainly but he did seem to be on even footing with Genma(who is missing, so I guess you can put him there too).
And I guess Shikaku is a nice person to be moved. If anyone.
Ok, Sharingan Gaiden Kakashi makes sense.
We don't have *Genma?* How does that happen when he has databook stats? 🙂 (Judging by which, he should probably be a B or B+)
Did the two of them fight? Was it an anime-only thing?
Baki seemed fairly senior and did fairly casually slay Hayate, another special jonin, and has databook stats higher than Genma's.
Hm, another alter that comes to mind looking at the list- probably should bump Anko down to B. It's not like she uses her cursed seal.
Once again, Psycho's posts are useless.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
The two of them didn't fight on panel but it seemed like the two were about to throw down, which makes me believe that they were roughly equal, which is why neither was killed. Considering Kakashi and the others were fighting in the stands, I'd wager it was a one on one fight.
Well, a special jonin and a jonin throwing down isn't too weird. Hayate tried to take him on solo too.
As one of the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist, Kushimaru was one of the most powerful shinobi Kirigakure ever produced. His generation of swordsmen was even noted to be the strongest in the village's history. He was capable of using the Silent Killing technique, as seen when fighting the Third Division of the Allied Shinobi Forces while under the cover of his former colleague Zabuza Momochi's Hiding in Mist Technique.
Amidst the battle with the Third Division, the resurrected previous generation of the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist are summoned by Pakura and Gari, under Kabuto Yakushi's instruction, with the intention of overwhelming the opposition. Amongst their number is Kushimaru, who after being futilely bombarded by various techniques, retrieves Nuibari from within a scroll in Mangetsu Hôzuki's possession. Entering the fray whilst concealed by a thick mist, Kushimaru begins a silent massacre, impaling a multitude of shinobi before bundling them together. With Zabuza Momochi's defeat, the mist clears, exposing Kushimaru to the enemy. By the time Kakashi Hatake and Might Guy departed for Naruto Uzumaki's location the following day, Kushimaru had been sealed by the Third Division.[1]
How stupid that swords seems he was one of the last ones to be sealed so therefore i believe stronger than most of the swordsmen
Originally posted by Q99useless yes, it's clear this list is self indulgent nonsense and a dissenting opinion or display of disagreement is not welcome. you might as well just keep the list to yourself then
Once again, Psycho's posts are useless.
also, u mad
this thread shouldn't be about a tier list...at all
To be fair, it was worthless.
If you wanted to make an argument that Anko shouldn't be bumped down, preset one. Use reasoning to explain why. For example, Anko is still a student of Orochimaru's and the students of the Sanin are all strong ninja in their own right. She was also able to go toe to toe with Oro's clone, lending credence to the idea that she has some good taijutsu skill. Or argue that her stats are above Haku's, who is B+.
Unless you have a problem with Sharingan Kakashi from the Gaiden being A-? You might make the argument that at this time the sharingan is going to cause a massive drain on his chakra, so he shouldn't be bumped up.
A face is not an argument. As for this thread being about a tier list, it really isn't. The list isn't official, no one is required to pay attention to it, and it's really, for me anyway, a fun way to kill time until the next chapte
Psycho
useless yes, it's clear this list is self indulgent nonsense and a dissenting opinion or display of disagreement is not welcome.
Whoa, I have no problem with dissenting opinions or arguments.
You don't offer them, though 🙂
You post an "I'm mad!" picture, or say, "You put that there?" without explaining why. You don't explain your reason, you don't offer good arguments (or, generally, any arguments).
Thus, as long as you do that, without offering good input like, y'know, everyone else, you're going to continue being ignored, because "I DON'T LIKE!" is not a productive argument that I can do anything with.
Other people offer input, and get listened to. You whine and complain, so you get ignored. There's several characters that are in list positions I personally disagree with or argued strongly against at the time. They're there because people posted reasons and gave thought out debate. You could learn by example and try participating for a change if you actually wanted to have an input, but I think you just want to be heard rather than say anything.
The rest of the class is perfectly willing to listen if you're willing to actually talk 🙂