There is no way to make those statements, it all come downs to the players and the available items.
Take in the beginning of TBC, the first people who got to lvl 70 had to wait or the rest of their guilds before they could raid and got great gear, and many of them neglected getting gear while grinding.
I remember during my leveling in...... I've forgotten the name, first zone in Outland.....I met and killed 2 lvl 69 Huntards at lvl 60 as well as a Warrior at 70 who was a bit harder.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Lol, he should have been able to **** your pet then kill you. What a nub of a warrior.49>59 isn't really since most peep hve got the first very things from outland
How exactly would he be able to kill me? I was a hunter, getting the first shot. He was an around level 20 warrior. No intercept, no speed enhancing items and a two handed sword.
Gear does not weight near as much as skills does. If the ?? is a talented player and has the right skills, they will win. The reason I won against the warrior was because he could not do anything.
gear can easily beat skills sometimes unless the unkilled person is completly hopeless, altho its rare that someone completly hopeless is unskilled. a well equiped character can have higher resists, higher armor and hit so much higher than you, that even if your skilled it would be near impossible to win
for example i used to duel high level hunters at level 50, when they were 60, i think i was 52 actually and it was a accomplishment for me because the guy was supposedly very skilled and had tonnes of epic gear (me wearing blues) and that Loklor staff and the matching bow to go with it, and this dragon helm, those were fairly good items at the time, and i beat him so many times, ofc ime a lock so it took a couple of skills since he resisted, but thats skills>gear
but nowdays beating high levels is so much harder imo, the gear has grown so much, theres things at higher levels, diffrent enchantments and things that can make a higher level character so much harder to beat
Originally posted by Morridini
There is no way to make those statements, it all come downs to the players and the available items.Take in the beginning of TBC, the first people who got to lvl 70 had to wait or the rest of their guilds before they could raid and got great gear, and many of them neglected getting gear while grinding.
I remember during my leveling in...... I've forgotten the name, first zone in Outland.....I met and killed 2 lvl 69 Huntards at lvl 60 as well as a Warrior at 70 who was a bit harder.
Ok, well their just noobs then, If i ever loose to someone lower level than me, it's because i've been power grinding and their a twink. I've NEVER yet lost to someone more than a level lower
Originally posted by Lady Fox
How exactly would he be able to kill me? I was a hunter, getting the first shot. He was an around level 20 warrior. No intercept, no speed enhancing items and a two handed sword.Gear does not weight near as much as skills does. If the ?? is a talented player and has the right skills, they will win. The reason I won against the warrior was because he could not do anything.
Your pet is effectively a level 12 mob, which is basically a bag of rage for him, and you can't concussive shot him all the time, once he gets close, hamstrong, your screwed. Game over. Like i said Nubcake of a warrior, L2P.
Not neccessarily, as a caster then will resist an annoying amount of times, so it's not so simple 😬
Originally posted by EvilAngel
and you can't concussive shot him all the time, once he gets close, hamstrong, your screwed
Once you get the first shot off, warriors are actually the easiest class to kite in the early going for a hunter. Rogues have sprint, pally can BoP and stun. If the warrior loses the charge in the early going, the odds are distinctly stacked against them. Skill level is moot. A good hunter can easily just strafe and concussive and shoot continuously until the warrior is dead.
Originally posted by DarkC
Yeah. That's if he gets close. And that's a very big if at that.Once you get the first shot off, warriors are actually the easiest class to kite in the early going for a hunter. Rogues have sprint, pally can BoP and stun. If the warrior loses the charge in the early going, the odds are distinctly stacked against them. Skill level is moot. A good hunter can easily just strafe and concussive and shoot continuously until the warrior is dead.
Level 20 warrior vs a level 10 hunter he can get close, apparently though this was some kind of super noob.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Level 20 warrior vs a level 10 hunter he can get close, apparently though this was some kind of super noob.
I doubt you can kite with concussive shot alone, the level difference means he could kill the pet without even trying so there's 35% of the hunters dps gone. No way does a 4 second slowing move with a 12 second cooldown make for probable kiting. At that level you don't even have wing clip
Later levels ofc Hunters can destroy warriors in the humiliating fashion, but at level 10 you have no where near enough tricks to do so.
The warrior is question had nubulitus, no doubt a severe case at that
Originally posted by EvilAngel
I doubt you can kite with concussive shot alone, the level difference means he could kill the pet without even trying so there's 35% of the hunters dps gone. No way does a 4 second slowing move with a 12 second cooldown make for probable kiting. At that level you don't even have wing clipLater levels ofc Hunters can destroy warriors in the humiliating fashion, but at level 10 you have no where near enough tricks to do so.
The warrior is question had nubulitus, no doubt a severe case at that
Also in the later levels, you're also wrong; the classes are much more balanced then. Warriors are more difficult to kite due to intercept, possibly improved hamstring or peircing howl. Not to mention trinkets. Hunters don't "destroy" warriors anymore, it's a good fight as any. Without intercept the odds are distinctly stacked against a good kiting hunter.
Originally posted by DarkC
Doubt or not, that's how it's done. Concussive shot is the biggest advantage that the hunter has over melee classes. A 4 second slow is more than enough to keep a warrior kited, even without improved concussive. All they really have to do is concussive, four seconds of progressive running/shooting, and when concussive is up all they have to do is 180 instant shots while running away to keep the warrior in combat until their cooldown is up again, rinse and repeat. There is no way a warrior can keep up with that, without some way to break the slow. They'll just chase the hunter around forever.
lol, so you're saying a level 20 warrior isn't a noob if he loses to level 10 hunter? XD L2P
Originally posted by EvilAngel
lol, so you're saying a level 20 warrior isn't a noob if he loses to level 10 hunter? XD L2P
L2Read.
Originally posted by BackFire
The warrior should have had a ranged weapon and simply out damaged the hunter from a distance.
Besides, even if his ranged skill were up, he's not going to shoot nearly as fast as the hunter. It'd be a close DPS race if both were wearing standard greens. Warrior's best bet is always close range.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Not really, it's coming across here like you think it wouldn't be uncommon for that to happen. The warrior was a noob with few equals, period IMO
A ranged weapon is standard gear at 20 for any decent warrior, if for no other reason than to simply range pull without getting up close and aggroing a group..
And no, it would not be close at all. A standard level 20 warrior would have mostly greens (maybe a blue or two), decent armor, and a ranged weapon that does much more damage than one a hunter can get a level 10, along with at least twice as much hp. A warrior would absolutely be able to stand there and trade ranged blows and come out on top with ease.
Originally posted by BackFire
A ranged weapon is standard gear at 20 for any decent warrior, if for no other reason than to simply range pull without getting up close and aggroing a group..And no, it would not be close at all. A standard level 20 warrior would have mostly greens (maybe a blue or two), decent armor, and a ranged weapon that does much more damage than one a hunter can get a level 10, along with at least twice as much hp. A warrior would absolutely be able to stand there and trade ranged blows and come out on top with ease.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Ok, well their just noobs then, If i ever loose to someone lower level than me, it's because i've been power grinding and their a twink. I've NEVER yet lost to someone more than a level lowerYour pet is effectively a level 12 mob, which is basically a bag of rage for him, and you can't concussive shot him all the time, once he gets close, hamstrong, your screwed. Game over. Like i said Nubcake of a warrior, L2P.
Not neccessarily, as a caster then will resist an annoying amount of times, so it's not so simple 😬
Originally posted by EvilAngel
I doubt you can kite with concussive shot alone, the level difference means he could kill the pet without even trying so there's 35% of the hunters dps gone. No way does a 4 second slowing move with a 12 second cooldown make for probable kiting. At that level you don't even have wing clipLater levels ofc Hunters can destroy warriors in the humiliating fashion, but at level 10 you have no where near enough tricks to do so.
The warrior is question had nubulitus, no doubt a severe case at that
Are you serious, or do you just like giving me a laugh? 😛
Originally posted by BackFire
A ranged weapon is standard gear at 20 for any decent warrior, if for no other reason than to simply range pull without getting up close and aggroing a group..And no, it would not be close at all. A standard level 20 warrior would have mostly greens (maybe a blue or two), decent armor, and a ranged weapon that does much more damage than one a hunter can get a level 10, along with at least twice as much hp. A warrior would absolutely be able to stand there and trade ranged blows and come out on top with ease.
A warrior, unlike a hunter does not have instant shots. They also have shorter fire range. He also needs to stand completely still. With a concussive shot a hunter can easily run away from the warrior and bandage up. If the hunter is skilled, the warrior stands no chance until he gets intercept.
Of course, you will probably run out of land if you try kite a 29 warrior at level 10 and then die if the warrior knows what he is doing. It will also take forever to kite such level range 😛
Besides, I had a boar. That warrior never stood a chance.
Originally posted by Lady Foxsays the girl that doesnt even play 😛
How exactly would he be able to kill me? I was a hunter, getting the first shot. He was an around level 20 warrior. No intercept, no speed enhancing items and a two handed sword.Gear does not weight near as much as skills does. If the ?? is a talented player and has the right skills, they will win. The reason I won against the warrior was because he could not do anything.