evolution

Started by Imaginary156 pages

You say that this thread has gone totally off topic when you're discussing what the Bible says?

I'm not sure what's going on here, but I'm a Biology Student and for me it's totally clear that evolution happend. There is simply no other way for life to evolve. I've seen a lot of questions asked (fossils, the Grand Canyon, oxygen, the first cell, The mitochondrial Eve => actually it were about 7 mitochndrial Eves out of Africa) and about 90 percent of them I could answer pretty easy. Why don't all these people get informed first and then start to ask questions?!
The Evolution Theory is a theory!! It is a pretty good theory because it explaines nearly everything but there are gaps due to never found fossils and missing knowledge. For example you can say that in Europe and the US a great deal of the existing fossils have been dug up but not in Asia, Africa or Australia.
I think it's crap to ban evolution from being taught in school. It's science and not a religion! The evolution theory does not have to compete with any Religion cause it's a completly different thing!
These people accept modern medicin but not science. Thats a nice paradox!

A while back hunchy stated that if I thought God created Evolution then he created other religions. No, humans create those aspects of life. If evolution is true, God did create it. God need not be worshiped in religion, but I agree with religions because it creates an environment for learning about God. Which is another way of saying how to live life without making all the mistakes people have before. Evil, historically, failed to live on.

Evolution, if at all a religion, would be called the Gaia Theory.

In star wars, you live on if you are evil, but you live in hell attached to some Darth Lord.

If you are good in star wars you move on to become part of the force and are no longer tormented by evil. Evil won't get you if you are good.

Obviously PVS, you really like to call me (and almost everyone else) names at random. Thanks.

Originally posted by kingcoot
Obviously PVS, you really like to call me (and almost everyone else) names at random. Thanks.

ummmm....wtf?
can you please go back in this thread and quote the names i called you?
i must be experiencing amnesia, and a reminder would be much appreciated.

Sorry, it was calling my writing jibberish. I was actually saying I'm a copy cat. So you basically called my writing jibberish when I was being annoying like you. Am I making you sick yet?

You do call people names, like mrphelps or whoever, Handicapped.
Nice. Now get some memory enhancers, and not mammary enhancers or you get bigger nipples to lick.

I know what PVS stands for. Please Viciously Spam. Yes I've always thought that, not just at the moment.

i called it jibberish because it was jibberish.
rather than talk the issues, you are focusing this thread on me and only me.
not "PVS is an idiot because he believes evolution is...." which i could at least deal with since its on topic. but what you are doing is being an attention whore by trying to tagteam with your little buddy and make a personnal battle...which is really stupid. you cry about people having the same opinion and arguing them against hunchy, as it is on topic...but you choose to use the forum to gang up on me and make personal attacks, while avoiding the topic entirely. double standards.

but whatever...i just hope you dont think you're getting a rise out of me.
if so you are really wasting your time...just thought i'd let you know.

I know I won't get a rise out of you. You ignore everything that is tough to comment on, like the truth. Out of my last post you quoted 3 lines of 14 lines that I posted. Micheal Moore does this in his documentary. You are ignoring information, and you have accused others of not being informed. You are being so hypocritical. And you pretend not to see it. You're next post will be something I've seen before.

... or

"Nice bunch of jibberish. You won't get a rise out of me, I'll ignore it." and then you respond to it all.

I'm just treating you like you treat others. Alot of people agree, you do try to make almost everyone mad. You enjoy it.

You make personal attacks, and then add something to the topic to justify your post.

Evolution by the way, is a theory based on what will survive in the environment it is given. If PVS were an evolving species, and he started as a skunk living in a desert, he would have many traits that would allow him to live in the desert. Over millions of years of living in the desert many changes in the weather and other animals living to eat PVS would cause changes in appearance. Snakes living to kill PVS would also die out if they did not have the speed needed to survive off of PVS. Evolution would say that if PVS were to live on, the snake would have died out to allow PVS to live. Meaning, PVS acquired the speed to out run snakes and to live on due to genetics he obtained over millions of years. Basically if an evolving species makes changes that avoid extinction, then PVS would seem invincible, but another species that is more capable of the PVS would be named Kingcoot. The Kingcoot species could overtake the PVS because his genetic structure over survival of the fittest could prove to be a seemingly invincible evolutionary chain to come to a complete halt.

Originally posted by PVS
rather than talk the issues, you are focusing this thread on me and only me.

You didn't add a relevant topic piece to your message to me. Thanks for proving a point. You came here obviously to attack hunchy because you enjoy getting a rise out of people. You explained yourself well. Now leave it at that.

BTW, you have to get a rise out of people, cause you report people. 🙂

And then the Silver Stardust species comes along and wipes out the Kingcoot species 😐

Kingcoot, I've never seen PVS intentionally anger or piss off anyone. But then again, you've not been around too long...

Please stay on topic. Like PVS said. No double standards please.

wow, offtopic pathetic bickering 😐

This thread has really gone downhill...really makes me wonder why I bother anymore. Having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent really isn't that much fun.

we can blaim it on the creationists 😉

😂 Who just say the same thing over and over again and don't bother to try and find any evidence to back it up and don't want to do any research before asking questions...

or just say we misquote the bible or take some parts literal

look, you are just playing games, so i guess ignoring you is the best option.
but its so hard because you and your little buddy have hijacked every thread i frequent.

and yes, i ignored you're last post because i saw "PVS" typed like 50 freaking times. you need to drop this obsession, and go back to topic.

QUOTE "I'm just treating you like you treat others. Alot of people agree, you do try to make almost everyone mad. You enjoy it."
nobody cares about your little vendetta, really.
alot of people huh? ok, lets test this theory shall we?
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-anyone who wants to bash me and prove their discontent of me, please state so now....

-anyone who thinks this thread should focus on PVS and not evolution, say so now...

-anyone who would like to join kingkoot in his vendetta and strike down PVS, the 'scourge of the forum'...say so now.

and finally-

anyone who really doesn't give a shit about this stupid vendetta, simply do not dignify it with a response and continue discussing the topic of evolution.

Please stay on topic then? Its evolution. Does anyone have anything to add on how Evolution and Religion (Bible) could tie in with each other. To me that is interesting. Thanks PVS, we agree on something now.

anyway, the bible says god created man in his own image...but leaves it at that. so, how literally can we take this? if say...a sea sponge had a conscience, it would see humans as being very similar to mice, cats and dogs. 4 limbs, a head, toes/fingers...so what is 'god's image' and if it looks exactly like homo sapien, then how are neandrathols explained? since they came first, that would perhaps mean that god looks like a neandrathol and we evolved from that?

i dont BELIEVE this to be tru, but just for the sake of arguement

I believe humans are created in Gods image. The bible isn't to be taken literally in my religion of being Lutheran. We read the bible, see connections of what physical events could occur. The first 7 days of creating existance. I had hypothesized that the big bang throwing all the suns and bodies into space could signify the first day of creation. That would leave the time scale such that the 7 days mentioned are "days" for God, not to be thought of as Earth revolving around the sun, which may not have existed till the 2nd or 3rd of God's day.

Humans were created in the image of god, it just took evolution to do it. It was then God's plan to create an image of himself, and now wouldn't we still be evolving into what he is? interesting.

Has this been said before? I hope not, beause that sounds perfectly logical. Is this the meaning of life? To become god? Scarey.

On the other hand, are we to be like god's image. Not himself, or is it to become part of him? And will this part be born? This sounds like the Matrix. Or MIB.

aaaaaah, so what you are saying is that religion can ADAPT to science.

you are saying that the bible can be translated in different ways, so long as you keep an open mind.

when the bible was written and up till not very lond ago. it was believe that it was 7 days. (six if you dont count when god took the day off)
they believed it was 7 days as in 172 hours. but now more openminded people of faith can say "well, maybe god didnt just create man, but created the great plan of nature...and IN that plan would be the evolution of man, who would ONE DAY be in my image" or perhaps "in his own image" simply means that we are part of nature, part of everything he created...so maybe that is what it means....the possabilities are endless for those who keep am open mind.

remember that in the dark ages all the way up till the colonization of the u.s., it was widely preached that god hated us all, and was always on the brink of losing his temper and smiting us all...today god loves us...religion adapted, as it will continue to adapt. thats the only way it can survive, and remain believable. perhaps its all just everchanging bullshit, or perhaps we are figuring out the truth of the bible little by little...but the interpretation is always changing.

bravo... the interpretation must adapt because the bible was ahead of its time when it was written, but that has really been passed by the 1000's of years now. We can see back soo much farther.

This interpretation doesn't change that it could still be the word of God. Perception determines your reality. -- Qui Gon Jinn.

God simply spoke what he perceived, and we can misjudge it, but it can be true. George Lucas is trying to show this, and it was the purpose to show a world after religion and science have been nearly fully understood. But there can always be war even after the fact.

This is where Evil comes in to play. Evil will provoke war, and endlessly want war. That is where Saddam comes in.

Evil is deceptive... and it will try to look good and please the majority of the world against what is really good. Just like Papatine got power, Saddam could be doing some scheme, some grand finale while the world hates the US.