evolution

People have responded to you in the ways they did because you have not backed up anything you've said. You've said that you think evolution shouldn't be taught until the end of high school/college, but when people ask what you think should be taught in science classes instead you refuse to answer and dodge the questions.

You can have an opinion. But by posting it in the open, people can and will comment on it, dissect it, and challenge it. Anyone can respond to your posts. And if you don't like it, then don't post.

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
but it is puzzling to figure out why everybody is so interested in me explaining every single word I say to the fullest extent when there a dozens of other post in this thread that you could dissect.

is it comprehensible.....

But it's the topic at the moment - You said due to the conflict between evolution and creationism that evolution should, to avoid confusion, be left till collage to be taught.

The question then is - what will replace the evolution theory in the classrooms before collage?

A simple question as, after all, there will suddenly be a big gap of time freed up, what will fill it?

What will replace the evolution theory in the classrooms before collage?

And if nothing replaces it then will we have a huge hole in peoples understanding about the origin of life, or will we have the creation theory running rampant in the minds of impressionable youngsters - is that right?

So the question is, and it is simple - What will replace the evolution theory in the classrooms before collage?

I'll say it one more time:

I NEVER SAID IT SHOULD BE TAUGHT. DO YALL NOT COMPREHEND THE WORD "MAYBE". SO GET OFF OF MY BACK!
AND IF YOU STILL WANT TO PROLONG IT WITH MORE QUESTIONS, OH WELL. YOU FILL THE GAP. ANSWER IT FOR YOURSELF!

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
But it's the topic at the moment - You said due to the conflict between evolution and creationism that evolution should, to avoid confusion, be left till collage to be taught.

The question then is - what will replace the evolution theory in the classrooms before collage?

A simple question as, after all, there will suddenly be a big gap of time freed up, what will fill it?

What will replace the evolution theory in the classrooms before collage?

And if nothing replaces it then will we have a huge hole in peoples understanding about the origin of life, or will we have the creation theory running rampant in the minds of impressionable youngsters - is that right?

So the question is, and it is simple - What will replace the evolution theory in the classrooms before collage?

What's wrong with youngster's running around with the theory of creationism in their heads?

As it is now, they run around with the theory of evolution in their heads.

It's just trading one theory for another.

Since there is no definative proof for either, then who's to say which one should be presented?

At least with Creation, you would present the idea that there might be a God out there, and that the life which confuses/frustrates so many young people, isn't some random accident.

Then maybe they'll stop shooting themselves, other students, and teachers. 🙂

There's nothing wrong with children believing in creationism, just so long as it's taught to them properly in the correct context.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
What's wrong with youngster's running around with the theory of creationism in their heads?

As it is now, they run around with the theory of evolution in their heads.

It's just trading one theory for another.

Since there is no [B]definative proof for either, then who's to say which one should be presented?

At least with Creation, you would present the idea that there might be a God out there, and that the life which confuses/frustrates so many young people, isn't some random accident.

Then maybe they'll stop shooting themselves, other students, and teachers. 🙂 [/B]

Well, dare I say the proof for evolution is a lot more definitive then the proof for creationism (that is faith)? And dare I say that the theory of evolution is actually useful, especially if you are going to go on and have a career in sciences, from environmental science up to medicine? As well as things like world history? Well, I guess I do dare.

In a way it would be like trading one theory, that will be useful in a number of careers and is thought to be scientifically viable for a theory with little proof and not much use unless your going to be a priest.

And I dislike the reasoning that we need creationism to help the troubled youth of today - yes, give them religion so they can blame God for the troubles instead of coming to terms with the world, like so many other people do. And I must admit, I can't think of any link between student shootings and a lack of the creation theory.

There's no space for the two of us.

Creationism isn't a theory and has no evidence to support it.

Originally posted by redcaped
There's no space for the two of us.

??? Well, I guess it's a good thing there is only one of you.

Wrong species.

Originally posted by redcaped
Wrong species.

Not to be antagonistic or anything - but is there a purpose to what you are posting here? Any at all? Some theory or idea you are trying to get across?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Well, dare I say the proof for evolution is a lot more definitive then the proof for creationism (that is faith)? And dare I say that the theory of evolution is actually useful, especially if you are going to go on and have a career in sciences, from environmental science up to medicine? As well as things like world history? Well, I guess I do dare.

In a way it would be like trading one theory, that will be useful in a number of careers and is thought to be scientifically viable for a theory with little proof and not much use unless your going to be a priest.

And I dislike the reasoning that we need creationism to help the troubled youth of today - yes, give them religion so they can blame God for the troubles instead of coming to terms with the world, like so many other people do. And I must admit, I can't think of any link between student shootings and a lack of the creation theory.

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
religion can be good for number things. Not just for being a priest.
People find comfort in it.
People look toward faith to guide them.
And who's to say it's not real.
So religion is useful.

is it comprehensible.....

I was talking about practical applications like careers and future education. And as I said before, certain higher education courses ask for things like "A HSC pass in biology" which when I did it back in High school included a large section on evolution - but I am yet to encounter a subject that requires "A sound understanding of creationism"

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
religion can be good for number things. Not just for being a priest.
People find comfort in it.
People look toward faith to guide them.
And who's to say it's not real.
So religion is useful.

is it comprehensible.....

Not everyone finds comfort in it, though. Not everyone needs faith in something to guide them.

If people want to learn about religion, they can go to church and a private school. It has no place in public schools where people of all faiths (and lack thereof) go.

Not to mention that this is so irrelevant it's almost laughable.

Originally posted by Lana
Not everyone finds comfort in it, though. Not everyone needs faith in something to guide them.

If people want to learn about religion, they can go to church and a private school. It has no place in public schools where people of all faiths (and lack thereof) go.

Not to mention that this is so irrelevant it's almost laughable.

No but they could probably use it when life makes no sense, like getting laid off from said career that they got by learning evolution.

But what do I know... 😛

Originally posted by Lana
Not everyone finds comfort in it, though. Not everyone needs faith in something to guide them.

If people want to learn about religion, they can go to church and a private school. It has no place in public schools where people of all faiths (and lack thereof) go.

Not to mention that this is so irrelevant it's almost laughable.

Why are you so fast to say how evolution should be taught in school, but then say something like "religion" shouldn't be taught. That it should be taught in a private school or a church.

That is so immature.

Please don't jump at the next person who says the same things about evolution.

And I didn't say it helps EVERYBODY. I did not say that EVERYBODY needs it. Once again misconstruing my words.

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
do you not see how hypocritical and irrelevant this post is.

Why are you so fast to say how evolution should be taught in school, but then say something like "religion" shouldn't be taught. That it should be taught in a private school or a church.

That is so immature.

Please don't jump at the next person who says the same things about evolution.

And I didn't say it helps EVERYBODY. I did not say that EVERYBODY needs it. Once again misconstruing my words.

is it comprehensible.....

Because evolution is science. It has evidence and proof. It is an essential part of biology.

Religion is not allowed to be taught in public schools. You'd have to teach EVERY single religion then. As that is not feasible, it is not allowed at all.

Nevertheless, you came on saying how my statement about religion is irrelevent and almost laughable which it isn't.

You have no right to say that.

Religion is a part of this world, whether you or anyone else like it or not.

is it comprehensible......

Originally posted by Lana
Because evolution is science. It has evidence and proof. It is an essential part of biology.

Religion is not allowed to be taught in public schools. You'd have to teach EVERY single religion then. As that is not feasible, it is not allowed at all.

Evolution is theory and has plausible evidence.

It's a theory, just as is Creation.

It just sounds more plausible to folks who don't want to think there is a God.

(so they wont have to obey Him, I guess... I don't really know.)

But they are both only theory's,... for now. 🙂

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
Nevertheless, you came on saying how my statement about religion is irrelevent and almost laughable which it isn't.

You have no right to say that.

Religion is a part of this world, whether you or anyone else like it or not.

is it comprehensible......

Well, it was kind or irrelevant in context with what school is for - people go to school to learn, not be guided or comforted by religion - that is what your respective Church or temple is for. It has nothing to do with school.

Evolution is theory and has plausible evidence.

More then just plausible evidence. Consistent evidence that supports what the evolutionary theory puts forward. Which once again is a lot more convincing/valid then the evidence (solid or otherwise) put forward by creationism.