Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
yes but then why arent we equipped to even breach our solar system? why dont we evolve making oxygen out of nothing, lmao
if that's why you think evolution it's false, it's a rather weak one 😖
you might as well ask why haven't humans evolved into smart people yet?
well you've basically said we came from hairy apes that barely knew how to make fire. So I think humans evolving wings is just as rediculous.
so why havent we even slightly evolved after thousands of years on this planet... all those years before A.D. and we're still the same people.
basically telling someone who doesnt believe in evolution "Why dont you research evolution more" is like that same person saying "Well why dont you read the bible" ... its a hand-in-hand subject
lol , Im sure a bible thumper would feel the same about evolution. Considering we supposedly existed right after or same time around dinosaur extinction. Thats almost like saying we grew from amoebas into apes and then so on and so forth. we've been around longer than thousands of years. we as a people have also yet to see a species apart from our own 'evolve' to support such theories
SaTsuJin> Yes, there are billions of galaxies. And…? They didn’t exactly form on their own, but under the influence of gravity (if you want to know why, just ask – your resident scientist at your disposal).
Yes, we’re the only planet in the Solar System that developed complex and intelligent life. Earth lies at a distance from the sun, where water can exist in its three stages: Gaseous, liquid and frozen which helps balance temperature and which is beneficial for the formation of life. The other planets are either too hot or too cold to have water in its three forms.
That is not a coincidence. Water freezes at 0 degrees Celsius and boils at 100, and the temperatures on Earth lies within those parameters.
Life arose here BECAUSE we’re situated where we are from the Sun. That doesn’t require any divine intervention nor any Gods.
There may be microbes or fossilised microbes on Mars, there may be life in the ocean of Titan. And if you look outside the solar-system there are billions of stars where life may’ve arisen on planets situated in the so-called Habitable Zone.
Humans are animals, too. We’re mammals to be exact, just like whales and chimpanzees. Were we something completely extraordinary you wouldn’t be able to classify us as that. As mammals.
Evolution takes time. Our genetic make-up is still from the time we were hunters and gatherers, which we spend something like a hundreds of thousands of years doing. We’ve only lived in cities in 12.000 years. That is not enough time for evolution to work…
Humans did not evolve right after the dinosaurs became extict 65 million years ago. At that time the first mammals were still running around like small mouse-looking creatures. But after the giant lizards died out it became OUR time… The age of mammals.
There were no elephants either 65 million years ago, no tigers, lions or apes.
Oh, and: Not all dinosaurs became extint. Modern birds evolved from dinosaurs. So – birds ALSO didn’t exist at the time of the dinosaurs. Your knowledge of this topic is appallingly poor.
I can understand why some people prefer to stick to the Bible. It’s easy!
no, you just want some 'infathomable' truth that you can see right in front of your face, and requires no devotion whatsoever. Everyone thought the earth was flat at some point, and then apparently (and apallingly) found out otherwise 🙂 Im sure evolution will have its time.
I believe that only if someone finds life (intelligent.. not some microbial scum), can evolution start to have meaning. The only thing you people can do is say "Hmm... raptors bones.. full of airsacs and hollows, just like a bird" blah blah.. and what do you expect the thing to have? dense concrete bone structure so it couldnt move fast? lol.. then again, evolutionists are all athiests, which is fine with me. But you shouldnt go shoving this around like its the absolute truth. I know more than you think I know about evolution. However our life is far too precious to have been some kaboom in the middle of nowhere. I didnt exactly have to write a paragraph to say it either
why will evolution have its time? why not your faith? cause it's clear that they were wrong: earth is not a square... and please don't talk about "not taking it litterally" cause then you should provide an entire list of what should be taken litteral and what not and on what you base yourself to say that
well, if you're so keen on you thinking you know more about evolution, you certainly had me and apperently TO fooled by your poor post you made above.
How very easy for you to follow the crowd. Which is also made clear by the posts above. You did not discover said theory but deem yourself intelligent enough to put down those you dont agree.
My faith is not under discussion here, evolution is. So dont feel bombarded when you come across someone who doesnt agree with your thoughts or ideals. Also, who is talking about "Not taking it literally"? There is nothing poor about someone elses opinion/view on a subject, and I pity you for feeling that way.
Look... You CLEARLY don't know much about evolution. If you did, you would know that it takes much longer than 10,000 years for evolution to take place, and that microbial life is much more significant than the "scum" you claim it to be, and furthermore that we did not exist around the same time as dinosaur extinction. Christ, I knew that when I was five years old.
Just because none of us discovered evolution does not mean we can't disagree with somebody who doesn't think it happened. (none of this is a put-down, btw, because you have the choice to go research evolution for yourself and not be ignorant about the subject) I didn't discover that water freezes at a certain temperature, yet I can still disagree with people who think it doesn't.
As for the bit about the earth being flat... I'm afraid you are putting evolution on the wrong side of the faith/science debate. People discovered that the earth was round by watching ships sail over the horizon and observing how they did not simply vanish at some point. Rather, they disappeared from the bottom up so that their sails were the last thing visible. Darwin discovered evolution by observing life on earth, hypothesizing, and proving his theory. The earth being flat was something people believed out of faith. Evolution is not. I've researched both sides of the debate and found evolution to be much more plausible... I'm not a "believer" in the way Creationists are.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
How very easy for you to follow the crowd. Which is also made clear by the posts above. You did not discover said theory but deem yourself intelligent enough to put down those you dont agree.My faith is not under discussion here, evolution is. So dont feel bombarded when you come across someone who doesnt agree with your thoughts or ideals. Also, who is talking about "Not taking it literally"? There is nothing poor about someone elses opinion/view on a subject, and I pity you for feeling that way.
Well, bad luck for you, cause no matter how you put it ... if someone doesn't believe in evolutin, it's generally cause they believe in their god that created it all. Perhaps you haven't noticed it, but no one else here seemed to mind that faith was under discussion because it does get involved!
Thanks for the pitty, but you didn't come in a miles-range of my point:
SOME people here always say "I believe every word in the bible cause it's the word of god", well, the bible also mentions "the four corners of the world" so THOSE people should take that litteral too
Originally posted by yerssot
have you looked into this at all???
dinosaurs died 65 million years ago
this human (homo sapiens) was "created" if you will but we use the term evolved 100 000 years agoyou think 64.9 million years is "right after"??
That just boggles my mind...my brain is starting to hurt 😕
lol but gravity is evident when you drop something.. All Im saying is, its a very interesting theory, and there is quite a hefty possibility of it being true, but I find it terribly hard to believe that god had no hand in this.. our life forms have far too complex of internal systems (bloodflow , lungs , electrical impulses that carry our thoughts and feelings). Perhaps you can empathize when I say that something so intricate is out of the boundaries of evolution.
Originally posted by Darth Revan
I didn't discover that water freezes at a certain temperature, yet I can still disagree with people who think it doesn't.
I suppose this is a decent article to draw from (for further discussion).
http://www.religioustolerance.org/evolutio.htm
saTsuJin>
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Comparing the discovery that the Earth is really round (which the church opposed for centuries) is indeed comparable to the discovery of evolution. Your mind just isn't capable of grasping the fact that both were not handed down by od, but discovered by humans through a thing called observation.
You don't know how scientists works, so don't put your ignorance on display by claiming you know how. Although it does have some entertainment value...
Reading Genesis is easy. Biologists have spend decades refining, testing and studying evolution. So your idea is the lazy one, and the one which has already failed in the face of logic.
"Kaboom in the middle of nowhere"? 😆
Yeah, right, Sherlock.
Your faith IS under discussion because Creationism is a poor hypothesis with no shred of evidence to support it - as opposed to the scientific theory of evolution which has plenty of evidence to back it up.
Show me proof of God or divine intervention. Anything, show me where the HAND of God messed with life.
Until you can do that I'm not wasting more time with you.
ah yes, and someone who babbles incessantly that the bible is full of shit makes you right huh? logic isnt the backbone of the world.. and if my memory serves me correctly galileo said the earth was round, and everyone oppossed him.. not just the church.. lets not be rediculous. I dont know what you're talking about saying "You don't know how scientists works, so don't put your ignorance on display by claiming you know how.." I'd like to see where I've said that because Im sure
yerssot would have picked up on it long before hand
"Creationism is a poor hypothesis with no shred of evidence to support it " rofl.. I guess 'someone' didnt read the article.. tsk tsk.. anyways ... maybe you can get back to me when yerssot isnt spoon feeding you evo information, meanwhile have a read... Im sure your scientific speculation allowed you to logically predict that I was going to give you this URL...(j/k) http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_disp.htm
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
lol but gravity is evident when you drop something.. All Im saying is, its a very interesting theory, and there is quite a hefty possibility of it being true, but I find it terribly hard to believe that god had no hand in this.. our life forms have far too complex of internal systems (bloodflow , lungs , electrical impulses that carry our thoughts and feelings). Perhaps you can empathize when I say that something so intricate is out of the boundaries of evolution.How are you comparing evolution with a topic that can be clearly experienced at ones own discretion? I can throw water in the freezer for that nonsense. Evolution vs Creation is a more balanced comparison. I only brought up the earth being flat for the simple example of a popular belief gone awry. With that said, you mean to tell me that everything around us can be explained with some science?
Ah... Yeah. Just because something life is extraordinarily complex does not mean it had a "creator". Read "The Blind Watchmaker", it talks about this.
And those articles you provided are not proof for Creation. All they do it talk about its theories, in fact, the last one actually says that the arguments are probably false. And you know what? I've done quite a bit of research on the matter myself, and been totally unable to find a website proving Creation. All the ones I've found merely try to disprove evolution, which they can't do either.