shadowy_blue
Senior Member
Just to keep this thread going, I want to talk about the valiance and coincidence and prophetic dream that came to our none other than Boromir, and of course, Faramir. 😄
Bar, I don't want to snatch your idea, but your idea fascinated me considering that the Gondor brothers are my favorite characters so I actually thought about it. Don't be mad. 😄
Supposing that the dreams that came to Boromir and Faramir about Isildur's bane came from "The Powers", don't you think that Faramir was the one who was meant to go to Imladris since he dreamt about the dream several times while Boromir have only dreamt about it once?
*woahhh!! don't attack me just yet* 😛
But, I've also thought about it, and I realized a certain thing. If Faramir was really meant to go, then Boromir wouldn't have dreamt the same dream at all, right? 😄 No matter how many times it was.
If Faramir was the one sent to Imladris and eventually be one of the Nine Walkers, Faramir would be unlikely to cause the Breaking of the Fellowship and without it it's possible that Frodo would not have found the courage to try to leave alone. We know that the Breaking of the Fellowship was the best thing that could have happened. If it had not then Aragorn and Faramir would have likely gone to Gondor. Gimli and the Hobbits (maybe Legolas too) would have gone with Frodo to Mordor. The latter group would not be ideal in terms of stealth, would have been unlikely to snare Gollum and therefore would not have found the secret way into Mordor. That may have left them unable to get there or they would have had to pass far to the East and come in by the back route. This would have taken so long that Sauron would have likely won in the interim.
Also no Hobbits would come to Fangorn, Rohan would have probably fallen since Aragorn, etc. aren't there to place back their hope. Rohan would not have come to the aid of Gondor, instead Saruman would have headed that way too. If not to Rivendell. The Army of the Dead would not have liberated Southern Gondor and the troops so released would have come to Pelennor. Basically, Gondor would have likely fell even quicker and even if the Ring had been destroyed it would have been too late.
So, having Faramir go with the Fellowship just wouldn't have worked. The Fellowship had to break. Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli had to be at Helm's Deep. They had to go on the Paths of the Dead. Merry had to be with Theoden and Eowyn. Pippin had to be in Minas Tirith with Denethor and Faramir. Frodo and Sam had to be with Gollum, in Mordor. Everyone had to be at the Black Gate to divert Sauron's Eye, otherwise Frodo and Sam wouldn't have made it to Mt. Doom.
So yeah, 😄 It's just the right thing that Boromir was the one to be the member of the Fellowship, and for the good of all, he had to die at the end. I'm not saying that it's good that he died, but it's the best thing for the Fellowship and for the whole quest to work. Someone has to sacrifice.
Now, I was wondering, if Boromir was meant to go to Rivendell, how come Faramir had to have those dreams too? I had read the book again and realized something. Recall that when Frodo and Faramir meet in Ithilien, it turns out to be very important that Faramir had that dream:
"Are the riddling words known to you that Boromir brought to Rivendell?" Frodo replied.Seek for the Sword that was Broken.
In Imladris it Dwells.
"The words are known indeed," said Faramir in astonishment. "It is some token of your truth that you also know them."
This is a key moment in Frodo and Sam's efforts to convince Faramir that they are not enemies. If Faramir had not had the dream, one can imagine that things might have ended much worse. So the reason for Faramir to have had the dream was probably not so that he would go to Imladris. And it's pretty clear that Faramir, rather than Boromir, is the brother you would want the hobbits to meet in Ithilien, especially during the situation they were in. 😉
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