Free Will?

Started by Syren6 pages

Sod social structure. Free will is down to the individual, not society's perception of how we should act.

Well the dogmatic views of those above me were always constricting - and are still.

I believe in free will.

All those in agreement say "Aye"!

Now!

Aye! 😱

Well the mods are deciding how YOU should act on KMC 😉

*cough*

The Mods are deciding how I should act?

Pffft, they know I'm a Rebel....... 🪩

Well I can't work out how to get round them 😖

That's where you're going wrong. It's not about getting round them, it's about working with them to make KMC reach it's full potential. They're here for our benefit, not to piss us off. So why should we go out of our way to mess them around?

*cough*

Damn, I'm good diva

Originally posted by Syren
That's not what he was getting at. I don't think he said once that he'd like to have the mentality of a child. I think he meant that he'd like to be able to continue to breathe easy, to not see all responsibilities that come with age as weights. By "without a care in the world" I think he wanted to say that whatever decision we make, as adults, we should be comfortable with. As children, when we make a decision we feel pride and satisfaction, no matter how small the consequence. I'd like to keep that pride no matter my age.

Well said babe. It's all about freedom of expression. Freedom from outside judgments and the choices of others. They're not our choices, so why hold onto them.

Ps: and Sy...damn you're good 🙂

You could be MADE to be influenced by external factors. It is really not such a remote possibility.

Free will certainly does exist. Only my opinion though. Without it, I probably wouldn't be posting here. Someone tell me to do something, and through free will, I say "F*ck off."

I think this question is answered best by one of my favorite movie characters.

"I don't know if we each have a destiny, or if we're all just floatin' around accidental-like on a breeze. But I, I think maybe it's both, maybe both happening at the same time." -Forrest Gump

That is the theory I choose to believe in. I also believe that fate is something like a sketch of our life. It controls the main idea of who we meet and what we do and who we become. It is our choices that influence the final outcome.

Originally posted by rusky
^^ true...I agree with FM and everybody else who posted so far 🙂, free will does not exist, choices we make are simply a result of so many factors that we cannot possibly willfuly affect them all, only then would the choice be free...

I believe in Free Will, rather the choices are from some sort of factor or not, the fact is, we made the choice. No one can take the choice from us. 🙂

let first have a definition of freewill,
some think just by making our decision we have freewill, but others may say that though we make the decision, that decision came about because of other factors than our own wanting it, for example god already make it for us, we just don't know we are choosing what we were always meant to choose, or maybe we make that decision because of how we are made up, genes or something in our brain or whatever, so infact we don't have freewill. so freewill here will have to be a choice made that is not inflenced by anything at all but our wanting it.
if you see freewill as just a simple matter of being able to make choices then i think everyone of us do have freewill.
as for latter, well, for myself i don't believe in god, and it's just too complex to even try to figure it out.
but i think on the most basic level, our choices are really govern by our survival instinct and the desire to pass on our genes. but that don't really explain why a fireman would run into a burning building to save a stranger,so.......

This is my theory of "faith," if I can call it that.
There is not a moment in life a human don`t do an action. Evry thought we think, is an action. Now, there is not one action without a consequense (gee, my writing...). Evry thought we think, wourd we say, move we make has a consequense. So, evry single secund, 100 percent of all the time, we are changimg our future.
This way, I say that there is no souch thing as a Faith, wich has planned our life completely. You can`t see in to the future, becouse nothing is decided yet. the road are changing each step we take.

Thank you for you`re attention (Just had to write that one down...)

Originally posted by debbiejo
But imo we do have absolute free choice, this is why I have a problem is Karma..............If we are part of the creation with all its force, then we are also capable of all our choices of cause and effect..........It's called free will....

I feel external forces and circumstances sometimes make the ability to choose impossible. That out of 2 or more options, I have no choice but to go for that particular one. Determinism not necessarily entails that all future events have already been predetermined, and will necessarily happen.

We all agree that Free Will should be taking actions responsably, without trampling over others' liberties, right ?

I think that anyone who sides with determinism should read this essay

It must be observed that those learned professors of philosophy or psychology who deny the existence of free will do so only in their professional moments and in their studies and lecture rooms. For when it comes to doing anything practical, even of the most trivial kind, they invariably behave as if they and others were free. They inquire from you at dinner whether you will choose this or that dish. They will ask a child why he told a lie, and will punish him for not having chosen the way of truthfulness. All of which is consistent with a belief in free will. This should cause us to suspect that the problem is not a real one; and this I believe is the case. The dispute is merely verbal, and is due to nothing but a confusion about the meanings of words.

- W.T. Stace