The Passion of Christ

finti, sorry but the way the feet were nailed (position wise) and the fact that the "sedile" was used, does show that it had 2 purposes: yes one for added pain but also one for the support to lengthen the crucifixtion and thus add more pain to the death of the person.

The reason why Jesus was not "stoned" but was crucified was: Jesus was accused of blasemphy by the Sanhedrin(which the punishment for it was stoning) BUT Pilot really wasnt too concerned with blasemphy since he worshiped many gods not the true God. So the Sanhedrin then accused Jesus of treason(him claiming to be the King of the Jews when at the time, Ceaser was the only "king" for the land), Pilot had to take notice of the treason issue should this get back to Rome and Ceaser! The punishment for treason was ....CRUCIFIXTION!

yeah yeah so the NT says, why isnt it any Roman recording of the trial of Jesus being accused for treason?

cause the roman gave them the freedom of religion, as long as they didn't mock the roman gods, they didn't care

Who says it isnt? You? I think enough facts are there. For a long time, naysayers like you, discounted the story because it mentioned Ponius Pilot ,and they said he never existed. SO when historical evidence came forward to prove that he was indeed a roman porctorate during that time period, the naysayers had to move on to some other issue!

Besides Jesus crucifixtion has been mentioned by both roman and jewish hitorians like Josephus and Pliny the Younger.

cause the roman gave them the freedom of religion, as long as they didn't mock the roman gods, they didn't care

I guess he is talking about why Pilot didnt care about blashemy??

to omegaman:

Jesus was accused of blasemphy by the Sanhedrin(which the punishment for it was stoning) BUT Pilot really wasnt too concerned with blasemphy since he worshiped many gods not the true God.

that's wrong, Romans gave freedom of religion at that time in their provinces and relative freedom. He was accused of blasphemy, not treason

mentioned Ponius Pilot ,and they said he never existed. SO when historical evidence came forward to prove that he was indeed a roman porctorate during that time period, the naysayers had to move on to some other issue!Besides Jesus crucifixtion has been mentioned by both roman and jewish hitorians like Josephus and Pliny the Younger.

Pliny wrote that in what 150 ad. The christians was allready busy spreading their gospel at that time so of course one get influenced by the environment you live in, doesnt make the story more true though.

that's wrong, Romans gave freedom of religion at that time in their provinces and relative freedom. He was accused of blasphemy, not treason

Who says it isnt? You?

My point is that many aspect of Jesus and crucifixtion have bee doubted and that time after time , proof comes forward to prove them to be the truth like the Pilot thing I mentioned! Go back and read I said "like you" NOT you said yourself.

So try and name some other group of people who have been mentioned in history that started from a small group of people(disciples) and grew to the millions that exist today, who suffered horrible executions/deaths who followed something that was just "made-up". Look! Rome and Ceaser himself took notice of the growing group of christians and their KIng- Jesus and sought to stamp it out! Name something that you believe in that you would be willing to be fed some lions for?? This DID NOT just start from some made up story, it started with the real life of one called Jesus.

Pilot probably allowed it without any form of accusing besides the blasphemy to prevent a revolt

So try and name some other group of people who have been mentioned in history that started from a small group of people(disciples) and grew to the millions that exist today

Ceaser himself took notice of the growing group of christians

Name something that you believe in that you would be willing to be fed some lions for??

This DID NOT just start from some made up story, it started with the real life of one called Jesus

One reason could be(...and I think its ridiculous that you think evry single person EVER accused of treason against Rome was written down somewhere) but here goes...Maybe Pilot wanted NO record of his name being mentioned with the death of Jesus , a man whom he thought was innocent! His own wife told him to do nothing to harm Jesus. If Pilot didnt want it recorded then it would get recorded in roman history. This makes as much sense as you trying to say it wasnt recorded so it must have not happened. Thats a really lame arguement!

all fun omegaman, but do keep in mind that people like pilot got double checked by emissaries from rome, he couldn't just "forgot" or what ever to write it down, cause that could cost him his wealthy job

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Never claimed that Pilate existed, never claimed that a man called jesus existed either nor that this jesus was crucified . What I say I dont by is that resurrection bull

it should have been
Never claimed that Pilate didnt exist, never claimed that a man called jesus didnt exist either nor that this jesus was crucified . What I say I dont by is that resurrection bull

guess i hit reset in stead of submit while correcting it 😮 😮

finti, that would be zTiberus Ceasar! I hope you know that the term Ceasar was used many times other than for Julius!!

As for muhammed, are you saying that you believe he really existed??

One reason could be(...and I think its ridiculous that you think evry single person EVER accused of treason against Rome was written down somewhere) but here goes...Maybe Pilot wanted NO record of his name being mentioned with the death of Jesus , a man whom he thought was innocent! His own wife told him to do nothing to harm Jesus. If Pilot didnt want it recorded then it would get recorded in roman history. This makes as much sense as you trying to say it wasnt recorded so it must have not happened. Thats a really lame arguement!!

yers, please dont tell me you believe that Pilot couldnt have gotten things done HIS way while he was in Jerusalem. Rome was very far away and he was in charge ,so he was very powerful! Again , I am not really that concerned with this arguement because to me the contrary is just as silly! IF you believe that every person EVER accused of treason is written down somewhere then we are on different levels of intelligence!

finti, that would be zTiberus Ceasar! I hope you know that the term Ceasar was used many times other than for Julius!!

As for muhammed, are you saying that you believe he really existed??

So try and name some other group of people who have been mentioned in history that started from a small group of people(disciples) and grew to the millions that exist today, who suffered horrible executions/deaths who followed something that was just "made-up".

And for the record no I dont belive in him either as a prophet and gods man that is.

IF you believe that every person EVER accused of treason is written down somewhere then we are on different levels of intelligence!