Superman Vs Wolverine

ok, let me start off by saying that i think/know superman would win. let me explain. when you people claim that "wolvie can go at it with hulk"........ do you people ever read the comics you talk about? or is it all my friends friend told his mom told my aunt who know's nothing about comics told me sort of thing??? wolverine was knocked out by a glancing blow from hulk. a GLANCING BLOW. wolverine was knocked out by a backhand from juggernuat. A BACKHAND. superman is easily as powerful as either of them. with 1 solid punch/backhand/glancing blow superman would send wolverine falling to the ground unconsciouss. all the healing factor in the world will do you know good if you are UNCONSCIOUSS. i say that is a win. i think everybody should agree considering that in most hulk/superman crossovers superman is usually shown to be the superior. sometimes with no clear victor at hand. wolverine is only at peak human strength. somewhere around 800-900 lbs. superman is around the 40,000 ton range. that is a gap bigger than wolverines ego. he stands NO chance what so ever. doomsday was able to pierce superman's energy field around his body because 1) he is much much stronger than wolverine. 2) he had the stamina to wear down on superman before doing so. please read issues before you comment about them. it's absurd.

I agree with Juggernautfan, this is one of the no brainers. I cant believe people actually think Wolverine has even a fraction of a chance. Ten Wolverines would loose in a matter of seconds. I dont care if Wolverines claws could somehow cut Superman (which I doubt), how could Wolverine even come close to slicing him. Supermans so fast that Wolverine wouldnt even see him yet cut him.

wolverines claws could cut superman, provided that wolverine had a base level strength much higher than he possesse. the answer to the question "can wolverines claw's cut superman" is yes. they can. if they were on somebody else, such as the hulk. but not with the level of pressure that wolverine can apply.

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
wolverines claws could cut superman, provided that wolverine had a base level strength much higher than he possesse. the answer to the question "can wolverines claw's cut superman" is yes. they can. if they were on somebody else, such as the hulk. but not with the level of pressure that wolverine can apply.

Good point! That never crossed my mind at the time of my first reply.

yea, most people don't "think" when debating. they use alot of hear say information. it is very apparent when people are posting here. i have just come to put my 2 cents in. hopefull i can show people the error of thier ways. but i by no means am right all the time. i just think that some peoples thoughts are irrational on these web boards.

Originally posted by kal-el
OK.Here's all the ways supes could beat WOlverine:
1)reach into his chest and pull his heart out(reaching between the ribs of course)
2)pin him down with extreme ease and strangle him(aint no bones protecting the oesophagus)
3)Freeze him with his ice breath then punch him, thus shattering all but his adamantium skeleton)
4) Melt all of his body tissue off with his heat vision(wolvie can't heal back from vapour now can he)
5) Punch/throw him into space(very easy!)
THATS JUST IF HE WANTED TO KILL HIM BUT SUPES NEVER WOULD so heres how he'd just disable him/prevent wolvie hurting him)
1)Hold him in any known armlock(we're talking about someone who lifts 800lbs trying to resist someone who can lift mountains,buildings, tectonic plates).
2) Freeze him with ice-breath and leave him there.Wolvie aint breaking out of no ice.By the time he does it surely counts as a superman win.
3)punch him into another state like the hulk did.
4)Give him a finger stab to the throat thus causing him to choke for while(even Daredevil did that to him recently, stopping him instantly-yes thats right -DD-figured out there's no adamantium protecting the throat and just prodded him in one swift movement)
And as for the claws, they'd scratch supes at best(adamantium is virtually indestructable, superman's skin is virtually invulnerable, meaning his muscles/bones will basically never be broken/cut coz they gonna be even harder than his skin). And it would take an adamantium blade applied with far more force than wolvie can manage(800lbs aint quite enough) to pierce the man of steel's skin.
AS for speed and strength, well its ridiculously one-sided. Supes can make a fool out of wolvie without getting touched using his super-speed, which means even if the claws could do damage,theyd never make contact. What else is there?

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this Jugs

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
yea, most people don't "think" when debating. they use alot of hear say information. it is very apparent when people are posting here. i have just come to put my 2 cents in. hopefull i can show people the error of thier ways. but i by no means am right all the time. i just think that some peoples thoughts are irrational on these web boards.

Very well said. Most people hardly think when they want to defend their favorite superhero. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the idea that you come up for the ones you believe in. In a way, that's rather cool and I respect that. But it certainly doesn't mean you have to use strange and vague logic in order to prove your point.

In my humble opinion, Spider-man is the best there is. Period. But off course I realize that there are countless characters who could beat Spider-man any day. I like him the most, but he isn't invincible. I wouldn't like it any other way. It isn't because he happens to be your favorite hero, that he all of a sudden becomes a mighty warrior god.

By the way, Superman wins. He has infinite ways to knock out or kill Wolverine. Wolverine must use all his wisdom and stealth-abilities just to reach Superman !! And if Superman wants, he just flies above Wolverine (Wolverine sucks at jumping) and fries him with his eyes. Or does something else, it doesn't matter. There's no way to escape for Wolvie.

Superman fighting Wolverine is ridiculious. Superman is so much more powerful then Wolverine it's like a God fighting a angry child! Superman could fly out into space and then gly back to Earth and slam the ***** out of Wolverine with a super-fast-super-crash-blow! And he could keep doing that repeatedly unitl Wolverine couldn't get up any more. I say that by the first blow he would be done with. Superman could also easily pick up Wolverine a drop him in the desert where he will go hungry. I fhe wanted to be meaner about it he could drop him in the desert and then grab a mounatain and drop it own Wolverine, thus killing him instantly. Superman could grab him and just snap his neck light speed fast. I think I've helped demonstrate a few ways that why it would be no contest in this match. Who ever posted the topic did it becuase he knew Wolverine wouldn't stand a chance!

I liek to state enchanced human is strong enough for wolverine claws to go throu superman. if superman actauly for once fights with his super speed wolverine would stand a chance no one would. also the first wolverine vs hulk yes wolverine was nocked otu bye a cglanced blow btu they changed his character cuz that was stupid he has in later fights since then has taken full hit from the hulk and got right back up

superman used his light speed no oen in the universe could take him but silver surfer

more people can take superman, even so i liked you´re answer, lol.

lol anyways who eles could take him I knwo the hulk deffently couldent if superman moved at the speed of light. and thank u I liked my answer to lol

This is sooooo gay... Superman would rip him a new ass...

wolverines claws could cut superman, provided that wolverine had a base level strength much higher than he possesse. the answer to the question "can wolverines claw's cut superman" is yes. they can. if they were on somebody else, such as the hulk. but not with the level of pressure that wolverine can apply.

Another example of the application of real-world physics. Is it true and consistent? Depends on the writer. Chris Claremont, I DO believe, has characterized Wolvie's claws as being able to cut through anything.

Moreover, for the simple sake of argument, his claws DID slash open Silver Surfer's hide, which is definitely the more impervious of the two (he and Superman) - strength had nothing to do with it.

By the same token, did his claws not deflect off of Colossus' hide?

Not sure if they base it on strength or if they "write it off" as a property of adamantium.

thanks never finaly soem oen agree with me but any ways I never ever seen wolverine claws defelect off of colussus I seen them go right throu colussus matal with eas thou

What a dead conversation. If anyone is going to lose it's gonna be Wolverie. If anyone is going to die it's going to be Wolverine. Superman is damn near indestructable, invincible, invulnerable, and almost untouchable. Don't post another remark insulting the powers of Superman with a ***** fight like Wolverine. 😠

i'm not saying that wolverines claws couldn't cut through anything. we have to look at this logically. yes i do believe they could. but not with wolverines "enhanced human" strength. even though it's only at 800 lbs, maybe 900. peak human is what it really is. also, in a crossover where superman became the herald of galactus, superman took a blast from a ray that reed richards said was capable of cutting through adamantium. wolverine lacks the strength to pierce superman's field of energy around his body. yes, hulk did pass out in the first issue, but it wasn't because of wolverine. please quit trying to twist what happens in the issues. man you are so friggin lame wolverine8888.

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
i'm not saying that wolverines claws couldn't cut through anything. we have to look at this logically. yes i do believe they could. but not with wolverines "enhanced human" strength. even though it's only at 800 lbs, maybe 900. peak human is what it really is.

let me help you out by giving an example.

a steel blade should be able to cut through wood right? now, get a standard hunting knife and try stabbing it into a full grown pine tree. the average adult man would only be able to get about 1/4 of the blade in, you'd be lucky if you could get 1/3 of the blade buried in the tree. although the blade could cut through the wood, you wouldn't have the strength to really bury it in the tree. im assuming this is the concept that juggernautfan is trying to point out. wolverine would at most be only cutting the epidermis of colossus and wouldn't have much a chance of scratching superman.

Its weird that the claws cut surfer, coz surfers totally indestructable and Adamntium is only virtually indestructable is it not?

well if your refering to the dc/marvel crossover, i think that they hold no barring on main stream marvel universe.