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Originally posted by Eraserhead
There are probably tracks out right now. Don't know who exactly they would be by, but an obvious guess would be somebody political. Maybe even Lif. Who knows.

It just seems like a perfect opportunity for all the Bush haters (and there are many in the hip hop circle) to make another anti Bush song. My money would be on Tech or Lif, both have ripped Bush a new one on numerous occasions.

Originally posted by koolruningz
Cool, thanks guys.
While i think of it how long do you think it will be before the first anti Bush song comes out about the New Orleans disaster and who do you think it will be by?

Immortal Technique knew even before it happened 😛

"They feed us, genetically, modified garbage
So I, repetitively, reload the cartridge
Boston, New York, down to Atlanta
Guerilla war in the swamps of Louisiana"

Immortal Technique (June 2005)

Originally posted by koolruningz
It just seems like a perfect opportunity for all the Bush haters (and there are many in the hip hop circle) to make another anti Bush song. My money would be on Tech or Lif, both have ripped Bush a new one on numerous occasions.

Mos Def- Katrina Klap

haven't heard it yet though.

Chuck D also has a song i think.

Originally posted by koolruningz
It just seems like a perfect opportunity for all the Bush haters (and there are many in the hip hop circle) to make another anti Bush song. My money would be on Tech or Lif, both have ripped Bush a new one on numerous occasions.

I think any intelligent person can find many reason to bash Bush. It's just too easy.

Originally posted by Eraserhead
I think any intelligent person can find many reason to bash Bush. It's just too easy.

True

Originally posted by Dr. Octagon
Mos Def- Katrina Klap

haven't heard it yet though.

Chuck D also has a song i think.

Thanks Dr, i'll look out for those.

I think Katrina Clap is a terrible song.. especially by Mos Def standards. Same with Public Enemy's shit. Anti-Bush music has really gotten so cliche to be honest.. everyone's jumped on the bandwagon from Green Day to Eminem and now Chuck D? I wish people would think for themselves sometimes.

Originally posted by Eraserhead
I think any intelligent person can find many reason to bash Bush. It's just too easy.

He is the most unpopular President i can remember, with good reason i believe. His quote "the french dont have a word for entrepreneur" just sums up his intelligence.

EDIT: My bad, tried to post the Mos Def song but the link isn't working for some reason.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I think Katrina Clap is a terrible song.. especially by Mos Def standards. Same with Public Enemy's shit. Anti-Bush music has really gotten so cliche to be honest.. everyone's jumped on the bandwagon from Green Day to Eminem and now Chuck D? I wish people would think for themselves sometimes.

I don't think there's a bandwaggon (about these particular individuals). They are thinking for themselves, imo. Sure it may be tiring by now, but so is Bush and his antics. They have every right to say what they believe because in my opinion they're right (for the most part). Once he's gone, then everybody will drop it. But while he's here, people will speaks their minds.

Originally posted by koolruningz
He is the most unpopular President i can remember, with good reason i believe. His quote "the french dont have a word for entrepreneur" just sums up his intelligence.

I would say worse, but that's debatable. Worse of our time, yes, IMO.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I think Katrina Clap is a terrible song.. especially by Mos Def standards. Same with Public Enemy's shit. Anti-Bush music has really gotten so cliche to be honest.. everyone's jumped on the bandwagon from Green Day to Eminem and now Chuck D? I wish people would think for themselves sometimes.

I think if there is a reason to attack him then go for it, i agree that once Eminem and Green Day came to the party it got tired real quick but thats mainly because i dont like their music. I think its great that people can stand up and say what they want if they dont agree with it, imagine if a artist from Zimbabwe decided to speak out against Mugabe. 2guns

Originally posted by Eraserhead
I don't think there's a bandwaggon (about these particular individuals). They are thinking for themselves, imo. Sure it may be tiring by now, but so is Bush and his antics. They have every right to say what they believe because in my opinion they're right (for the most part). Once he's gone, then everybody will drop it. But while he's here, people will speaks their minds.
I'm not saying anyone who's anti-Bush is on the bandwagon, God knows I don't like Bush, I'm saying that making songs about it has become the bandwagon thing to do. Especially songs that don't really say anything important, just basically regurgitate the same message: Bush sucks. Well yeah Bush sucks, got anything new to say? If they wanna make political songs, that's great, I wish they'd just bring something new to the table though.. like Public Enemy did back in their day.

There are still good politcal rappers, I just think that a lot of people are treating being anti-Bush as some sort of fashion statement. For Eminem, Green Day, Kanye West.. this is fine, cause they aren't politically oriented. I don't expect much out of them. I expect a whole lot more outta Chuck D, and I'm sorta dissapointed that he's on the same shit as everyone else. Maybe my expectations are too high, but I can't help but think that this new song (Hell No We Aint Alright) is below him.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I'm not saying anyone who's anti-Bush is on the bandwagon, God knows I don't like Bush, I'm saying that making songs about it has become the bandwagon thing to do. Especially songs that don't really say anything important, just basically regurgitate the same message: Bush sucks. Well yeah Bush sucks, got anything new to say? If they wanna make political songs, that's great, I wish they'd just bring something new to the table though.. like Public Enemy did back in their day.

There are still good politcal rappers, I just think that a lot of people are treating being anti-Bush as some sort of fashion statement. For Eminem, Green Day, Kanye West.. this is fine, cause they aren't politically oriented. I don't expect much out of them. I expect a whole lot more outta Chuck D, and I'm sorta dissapointed that he's on the same shit as everyone else. Maybe my expectations are too high, but I can't help but think that this new song (Hell No We Aint Alright) is below him.

Well I can't speak on behalf of any artists so I don't know what their exact intentions are. Whether it be jumping on the bandwaggon, or just saying what's on their minds. I personally think it's just what's on their minds. Like I said, it's tiring and that's why I choose not to listen to it. They aren't saying anything new, but there isn't really anything new to say that hasn't been said about Bush. They're doing what most of us are doing except they can make a song about it. More power to them because to me Bush is anti-freedom. The more people speak their minds while he's around, the better. Now, the material itself may suck, but that's another story. That falls on the artists themselves. But that's what freedom is all about. People can say what's on their minds, and the rest of us can choose to ignore them.

P.S. I agree with most of what you said BTW. Just having a discussion.

Nah I see what you're saying, and I do try to ignore them. I'm not saying they shouldnt be allowed to speak their minds. They should be allowed to write about whatever they want, but I do get dissapointed when artist I like release sub-par material, whether it's political or not. When it comes to Chuck D, of course he should be allowed to express his mind, I guess I'm just disappointed that the most relevant thing on his mind that he could think to say was pretty lame by his standards. He might as well have named the song "Kanye West is Right."

When it comes to Mos Def.. I just think the song is bad.

True that. I feel what you're saying. I guess it all depends on peoples standards.

I havent heard either songs but i would expect alot from Chuck D and Mos Def because they have given us quality in the past, if they dont live up to those expectations then i'd be disappointed like Afro. Do you think they just rushed the songs to get them out there Afro?

I think that could be part of it.. I think that they probably also got lazy cause they figured that speaking out on Bush is such a popular thing to do and Katrina was such a huge event that they didn't have to try as hard to make a good song.. as long as they spoke on that issue while it was still in the news they knew people would listen.

I don't know if Public Enemy has still got it.. I haven't listened to any of their new shit besides this song, maybe they just aren't as good anymore. It happens. But I know for a fact Mos Def still has it in him.. hell, he released The New Danger just last year which was pretty good if you ask me. But everyone's entitled to some bad material here and there. I'm not condemning them, I just hope they step it up a little bit next time. I'm still curious to here this new Public Enemy album that's supposed to be coming out.

Have you heard the "Write To death" albums by Illogic, Kool? Very very good stuff. Some of his best material, lyrically. He gets more poetic on them. I'm listening to part 2 as I speak.