Originally posted by snoopdogg
I think Superman beats him in durabilty no doubt. But as far a scope of powers go Surfer has a edge.Thats why it will take Surfer awhile to put him down but in the end Surfer will prevail.
Pre-Crisis was scared of explosions that was created by Supernova (nexus)
it was hinted that he would not survive such exposition from exploding objects in space
SS laughs at that type of stuff.
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
lol!It's been explained in numerous issues about meta-atp, Fiery.
Surfer's draining nothing out of Big Blue.
I still think Supes would lose. But he wouldn't lose by that.
why wouldnt Surfer be able to manipulate the meta-ATP? The power cosmic gives him the ability to manipulate molecules.
Originally posted by kgkgI agree with most things you say except this. I read alot of Superman and he has tremendous feats of durabilty.
Even in durability SS is above superman
The only Surfer I read was a few from vol. 3 and all of vol. 4
I remember in a volume 4 issue he was put down by a few missles. It didnt knock him out but it left him weakened lying on the ground.
That probly shouldn't have happened... Surfer's underwritten a lot. And as to the Cyborg thing, Surfer NEVER puts everything he can into a first strike blast... You can almost assume it. And when he blasted Morg, the planet they were standing on exploded. You'd think if he used a big blast like that on Henshaw, the terrain would be altered at least a little...
If Surfer is shown to be less than Godlike then it's "bad" writing according to some people.
If Supes moves worlds, or defeats Cosmic villains, then that doesnt count to the same people.
Surfers cosmic blasts are stated in the vincinity to destroy cities..either way they arent strong enough to hurt/kill supes.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Dude im not trying to be rude but if you didnt read the comic how can you say he was toying with Cyborg?
I own the comic. Surfer was toying with him. He certainly didn't mean to destroy him.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Physically Supes has more than enough to match the Surfer.
Surfer just has more abilities. Surfer would expend his energy defending himself from supes.
Supes beat Cythonna, a Kryptonian GODDESS, so I don't him beating SS to be impossible.
Superman would drain himself first. Surfer can absorb ambient energy from the environment to replenish himself. He isn't going to run out of energy.
Defending himself? Superman won't be able to touch him.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If Surfer is shown to be less than Godlike then it's "bad" writing according to some people.If Supes moves worlds, or defeats Cosmic villains, then that doesnt count to the same people.
Surfers cosmic blasts are stated in the vincinity to destroy cities..either way they arent strong enough to hurt/kill supes.
Superman moves planets and defeats cosmic villians. When has anyone ever discredited him of either?
The Ultimate guide to Superman says that he's strong enough to move a mountain. I guess that's his limit, right? 😆
Here's a tip. READ. COMICS. Stop quoting the Marvel Encyclopedia and get some real info on the character. If you want to know what the Silver Surfer is really capable of, take a glance at some of his comics instead of debating blindly. The very same "worthless cosmic blasts" that can level a city destroyed a planet rather easily. The blasts will certainly hurt Superman.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I agree with most things you say except this. I read alot of Superman and he has tremendous feats of durabilty.The only Surfer I read was a few from vol. 3 and all of vol. 4
I remember in a volume 4 issue he was put down by a few missles. It didnt knock him out but it left him weakened lying on the ground.
Can Superman survive a black hole?
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If Surfer is shown to be less than Godlike then it's "bad" writing according to some people.
Supes had trouble with a monkey, I wouldnt talk 🙄
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If Supes moves worlds, or defeats Cosmic villains, then that doesnt count to the same people.
It certainly should, unless its pre-crisis, then obviously it doesnt count.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Surfers cosmic blasts are stated in the vincinity to destroy cities..either way they arent strong enough to hurt/kill supes.
surfer has destroyed planets with them. There are scans in this thread- including one where he just bursts out of a planet, destroying it. Supes practically NEVER speedblitzes, so how come Superman fanboys have him speedblitzing in everythread?
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
Supes had trouble with a monkey, I wouldnt talk 🙄It certainly should, unless its pre-crisis, then obviously it doesnt count.
surfer has destroyed planets with them. There are scans in this thread- including one where he just bursts out of a planet, destroying it. Supes practically NEVER speedblitzes, so how come Superman fanboys have him speedblitzing in everythread?
I don't see why Superman wouldn't be able to speedbllitz. He has the one ingredient necessary: speed. Speedblitzing isn't really a character issue, so OOC isn't a problem. Superman trying to kill someone is OOC. However, Speedblitzing isn't a viable tactic in this thread. The Surfer is way, way too much faster.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
although surfer is being a little overdone with destroying planets in a single cosmic blasts and stuff, hes still more powerful than superman.
Superman is the king of "overdoing." Surfer was concieved to be just that powerful. Norrin having the power to blow up a planet isn't a recent addition. He is one of Galactus's most powerful heralds.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Physically Supes has more than enough to match the Surfer.
Surfer just has more abilities. Surfer would expend his energy defending himself from supes.
Supes beat Cythonna, a Kryptonian GODDESS, so I don't him beating SS to be impossible.
Cythonna was a goddess of the winter with all of Superman's powers. She threatened the Earth with a huge blizzard that covered the globe. No way she's equal to Silver Surfer. She was more like a Storm/Iceman/Supergirl amalgam. Superman could do anything Cytonna could with his Super Breath.