Originally posted by whirlysplat
Korvac also would have beaten him😄 Surfer admitted Korvac was way above him 😄
Neither Morg or Hulk are in Supes class
Korvac would annihilate JLA/ Teen Titan etc
As for Morg or Hulk not in supes level it's just funny.
HUlk - unlimited strength (limitless) couldn’t hurt the Silver surfer (that’s my point)
Morg- the guy who kicked firelord , airwalker , terrax ‘s ass is below superman ?
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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
That was posted because YOU quoted that superman can only move mountains as a point before. Maybe YOU should read more Superman...he's been far far underrated here.Surfer was trying to restrain cyborg...Cyborg was even taking SS seriously.
Thor has knocked Surfer out... he's been beaten physically before. Are you denying this?
I didn't say that Superman cannot move more than a mountain. I was laughing at the thought that you limit Surfer to what you read in the encyclopedia, and I retorted that descriptions in a profile do not always encompass the characters true abilities. You said that The Marvel Encyclopedia said that Silver Surfer's blasts are capable of leveling a city, and that isn't enough to hurt Superman. The example I used was the Ultimate Guide to Superman, which says that Superman has enough strength to move mountains. Guides do not encompass the limits of a character's power. They give vauge detail.
Surfer was trying to restrain Cyborg, and he did just that. You can't assume as to where the fight was headed, because Parallax stepped in.
Normal Thor knocked out Silver Surfer? 😖hifty:
<,Well Korvacknows everything stored in Galactus's ship, all of the info Galactus has on record Korvac has>>
that one is a bit too close to call i think. both are well above surfer, obviously, and both would defeat the jla. and i agree whirly - supes is above hulk and morg. as has been shown and debated many times, supes has too many powers for hulk to overcome, and morg lacks ss command of energy. he'd be more likely to tackle supes head on, and supes would beat him. ss only wins because (like supes over hulk) he has more variety to his power, not necessarily because he has more RAW power. ss wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with supes, morg would. and, imho, he'd lose.
Originally posted by leonidas
<,Well Korvacknows everything stored in Galactus's ship, all of the info Galactus has on record Korvac has>>that one is a bit too close to call i think. both are well above surfer, obviously, and both would defeat the jla. and i agree whirly - supes is above hulk and morg. as has been shown and debated many times, supes has too many powers for hulk to overcome, and morg lacks ss command of energy. he'd be more likely to tackle supes head on, and supes would beat him. ss only wins because (like supes over hulk) he has more variety to his power, not necessarily because he has more RAW power. ss wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with supes, morg would. and, imho, he'd lose.
As usual you make a lot of sense Leo, my point is though a lot of what is said about Surfer on here does not hold up, although some of the best moments in comics have involved him. The Troyjan War in Hulk where he flicks the power cosmic and it bounces on a trooper. Superb 😄
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I didn't say that Superman cannot move more than a mountain. I was laughing at the thought that you limit Surfer to what you read in the encyclopedia, and I retorted that descriptions in a profile do not always encompass the characters true abilities. You said that The Marvel Encyclopedia said that Silver Surfer's blasts are capable of leveling a city, and that isn't enough to hurt Superman. The example I used was the Ultimate Guide to Superman, which says that Superman has enough strength to move mountains. Guides do not encompass the limits of a character's power. They give vauge detail.Surfer was trying to restrain Cyborg, and he did just that. You can't assume as to where the fight was headed, because Parallax stepped in.
Normal Thor knocked out Silver Surfer? 😖hifty:
nice argument 🤘
Originally posted by leonidas
<,Well Korvacknows everything stored in Galactus's ship, all of the info Galactus has on record Korvac has>>that one is a bit too close to call i think. both are well above surfer, obviously, and both would defeat the jla. and i agree whirly - supes is above hulk and morg. as has been shown and debated many times, supes has too many powers for hulk to overcome, and morg lacks ss command of energy. he'd be more likely to tackle supes head on, and supes would beat him. ss only wins because (like supes over hulk) he has more variety to his power, not necessarily because he has more RAW power. ss wouldn't stand toe-to-toe with supes, morg would. and, imho, he'd lose.
Surfer wouldn't try to go toe to toe with Superman. He never does. His plethora of other powers would earn him victory. I think Morg could go toe to toe with Superman, because they are roughly equal in strength and speed. It could go either way, but I believe that Morg has the advantage with power cosmic blasts and speed. But, neither are as versatile or as powerul as the Silver Surfer.
Originally posted by whirlysplat
I actually agree cubie has some good points, I have seen Thor have Surfer on the ropes but never knock him out. 😄
Thanks, whirly.
<<Surfer wouldn't try to go toe to toe with Superman. He never does. His plethora of other powers would earn him victory.>>
er, isn't that what i said . . .?
as for thor - mad thor ko'd ss, and mad thor had no more 'power' than real thor, it was just that thor completely and fully cut loose with his power without thought of ramifications. people seem to think 'mad thor' and 'regualr thor' are different beings. they aren't. anything 'mad thor' could do, thor could do. he just usually doesn't.
Originally posted by Zahit
Surfer would definitely HWFF Superman.It IS possible, however, for Superman to win by way of an
incredibly fast series of full-strength punches to knock him out.
Surfer CAN be knocked out. Superman CAN do it.
Is it likely that he'll do that or get to........probably not.HWFF!
Very unlikely. Surfer has the speed and agility to avoid Superman for the entire fight. Catching him off guard is highly unlikely.
Superman can knock Surfer unconscious if he allows Superman to do so. Trying to go blow for blow would eventually result in Surfer's loss, but that is extremely OOC. He has tons of ways of defending himself, and he can avoid Superman altogether.
HWFF.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<Surfer wouldn't try to go toe to toe with Superman. He never does. His plethora of other powers would earn him victory.>>er, isn't that what i said . . .?
as for thor - mad thor ko'd ss, and mad thor had no more 'power' than real thor, it was just that thor completely and fully cut loose with his power without thought of ramifications. people seem to think 'mad thor' and 'regualr thor' are different beings. they aren't. anything 'mad thor' could do, thor could do. he just usually doesn't.
Mjolnir can do just as much damage as the power cosmic if Thor cuts loose. Warrior Madness causes Thor to exercise his full potential. Surfer never exercises his full potential. What issue did this occur in?
Well I agree that Supreman could take Thor. You guys covered that in the Thor/Superman thread.
But I dont see Superman beating Surfer.
So is it true that Supreman stores his energy in chemical form?
If this is true then it changes the fight a little. Superman has a better chance but I dont know if its enough.
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeI agree with the Mjolnir doing as much damage as the power cosmic. But the power cosmic is on a higher level imo.
Mjolnir can do just as much damage as the power cosmic if Thor cuts loose. Warrior Madness causes Thor to exercise his full potential. Surfer never exercises his full potential. What issue did this occur in?
Surer does not usually excercise his full potential but neither does Superman.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I agree with the Mjolnir doing as much damage as the power cosmic. But the power cosmic is on a higher level imo.Surer does not usually excercise his full potential but neither does Superman.
Mjolnir is perfect weapon against cosmic wilders because it can absorb, and reflect cosmic energies.