Originally posted by inamilist
loli didnt say i think hulk wins
i think the fact that doomsday can stand up to the JLA shows hes more than a match for any hulk
haha, my fault..wen i was talkin bout him fighting jugernaut .. in a calm state before the fight(no war hulk or savage hulk)...yeah doomsday can his own against the JLA..but hulk took on the the Avengers before.
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moon is an object of X mass moving at velocity Y being held in place by the earths gravitational field Z.
since it is moving through a vaccum, it has no friction to slow it down, making it HARDER to move. Also, since it is in space, the hero's are relying on the strength of the thrust of their flight abilities only, since they have nothing to brace themselves on.
values of X, Y, or Z alone i think are too much for the hulk's upper strength level, however im unaware of the reletive strength of the gravity of the earth on the moon, especially since the moon shows a tendency to pull away from the earth, and gravity is such a weak force (humans can escape its force for brief periods ie: jumping).
the fact remains, to move the moon would require unimaginable ammounts of force.
"hulks greatest feat of str was lifting a 150 billion ton mountain
superman along with 2 others moved the moon, considerably more that 3 times that in weight
they are in differant leagues"
Originally posted by inamilist
ummmmmno
moon is an object of X mass moving at velocity Y being held in place by the earths gravitational field Z.
since it is moving through a vaccum, it has no friction to slow it down, making it HARDER to move. Also, since it is in space, the hero's are relying on the strength of the thrust of their flight abilities only, since they have nothing to brace themselves on.
values of X, Y, or Z alone i think are too much for the hulk's upper strength level, however im unaware of the reletive strength of the gravity of the earth on the moon, especially since the moon shows a tendency to pull away from the earth, and gravity is such a weak force (humans can escape its force for brief periods ie: jumping).
the fact remains, to move the moon would require unimaginable ammounts of force.
so u were talkin about supermans flight thurst instread of his stengeth comapred to the hulks lifting the mountain..??
lol
it doesnt matter HOW he did it
he moved THE MOON
something i think MAN with their current technology would have LOTS of trouble doing (ill say impossible short of just constructing a super rocket covering half of its surface)
Hulk has done nothing comparable to that
Doomsday beat superman when he had the help of a supercomputer
Doomsday>Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk
Originally posted by inamilist
lolit doesnt matter HOW he did it
he moved THE MOON
something i think MAN with their current technology would have LOTS of trouble doing (ill say impossible short of just constructing a super rocket covering half of its surface)
Hulk has done nothing comparable to that
Doomsday beat superman when he had the help of a supercomputer
Doomsday>Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk
Dude hulks greatest feat was not bracing that mountain he has punched through time ripped open dimensional barriers and destroyed an asteroid two times the size of earth. Moving the moon with the help of two other heroes is not that great considering the fact he flies and it as in space with no gravity. Hulk can exced supermans strength level. Doomsday may have taken on the justice leaugue but hulk has taken on the avengers heroes for hire and fantastic four at the same time. Hulk can beat doomsday if he gets pissed enough if not doomsday could knock him out nice and easy.
Also check the hulk respect thread for his feats
First off, moving the moon is not a matter of overcoming gravity, it is a matter of overcoming inertia, still an impressive feat. However, as someone correctly pointed out, this was done with "flight strength," not muscle power.
Superman (as far as I know) did not defeat Doomsday with flight-strength but with muscle power, ie, fisticuffs.
Putting the asteroid incident aside for the moment, Hulk has not moved any celestial bodies because given that he doesn't have any "flight strength," he can't be put in the position of doing so, not without some really GAB PIS. This does not necessarily mean, however, that if given some kind of cosmic leverage/bracing, the Hulk still couldn't do it even in theory. Given what the Hulk has (supposidly) been able to do (ie, that asteroid thingie), he would appear to have the potential to match Superman's feats (provided he gets mad enough), using not flight-strength but muscle power, which, again, is not what Superman used to move the moon. This of course then begs the question: using just muscle power, could Superman still have moved the moon?
DD vs Hulk could go either way, provided on how the fight is set up. You wanna talk arm-wrestling, weight-lifting or some other pure-strength feat--then Hulk wins.
Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
I don't think so, the hulk may be able to continue to increase in strength but doomsday too will increase his resistance, unless the hulk is immortal/ageless, he will sustain the fight but will eventually die.
That would only be the case if Doomsday is totally impervious to damage, which he may or may not be.
This is the sole reason why this thread has been so inconclusive.
However, Doomsday is one of superman's highest level rouges, making him (in my opinion) a higher calibur powerhouse than your everyday Hulk.
It depends on the incarnation of either combatant, but in most cases, Doomsday would win.
Sigh... The Hulk ain't what he used to be.
Originally posted by inamilist
loli didnt say i think hulk wins
i think the fact that doomsday can stand up to the JLA shows hes more than a match for any hulk
The HULK has taken the whole Avengers+ team on at the same time IM, WM, Herc, Namor, SHE-HULK and the rest of the crew... And did more than hold his own for quite sometime...
I think that any version of The HULK outside of (Grey because he starts too low and dosen't increase fast enough) will beat DD more times than they would lose.
The HULKs strength continues to increase the madder he gets that means LIMITLESS... Where as Superman has a limit to his strength.
The HULK would get madder/stronger everytime he fought him so DD wouldn't (IMO) be able to adjust correctly to his might after each death.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
The HULK has taken the whole Avengers+ team on at the same time IM, WM, Herc, Namor, SHE-HULK and the rest of the crew... And did more than hold his own for quite sometime...I think that any version of The HULK outside of (Grey because he starts too low and dosen't increase fast enough) will beat DD more times than they would lose.
The HULKs strength continues to increase the madder he gets that means LIMITLESS... Where as Superman has a limit to his strength.
The HULK would get madder/stronger everytime he fought him so DD wouldn't (IMO) be able to adjust correctly to his might after each death.
Classic Savage Hulk wipes his ass with DD.
Current Hulk doesn't do as well.